Yea, and downloading the file and playing it, gets a āthe file is not a movie fileā error messageā¦ :shrug:
Cheers,
- Jonas
FX WARS! THE OCEAN: -R.Quinn
rquinn
#28
my previous link should work nowā¦
I dont know why it wasnt working beforeā¦
it seems I had to export in premiere then re export in after effects to compress properlyā¦ for internet
RedSquirrel
#29
The sounds effects are great really brings it to life 
, I like the rain but maybe the particles for the rain drops could be a little smaller though.
CobraX
#30
This is definitely in the right path! it looks like it wonāt be long for you to get something decent.
Watch out, maybe you noticed it, but at about the 2/3rd of the duration of your clips you have some weird artifact going on. Itās well apparent in the foreground at the left of the clip. Maybe some key in the noise of the texture or in the nimation of your mesh.
Canāt wait to see you there man!
Keep it up.
I also like the haze on the farther waves AND the clouds at the end of the frame.
Cheers!
Xavier.
rquinn
#31
thanks to you both for your crits
whats an artifact?!
I realize my ocean drops a couple feet at once at one point
CobraX
#32
a glitch i fyou prefer.
the ocean drops, And the texture seems to stop for a few frames.
Xavier.
rquinn
#33
hmmm damn thanks for picking it up!
ill try fixing that!
What about the rainā¦ better to do it in 3d or is it ok.!>?
and how long to get the feel couple second or more like 10 secondsā¦
CobraX
#34
10 seconds might be too long, if you just want a feel, iād say 3-4 seconds.
The rain you have looks ok, it could be used to some more rain elements.
You are not forced to have an interaction for everydrop that hits the surface of the water as long as you have that nice haze on top of the surface.
In my opinion.
Keep it up man!
Move on!
jussing
#35
Wauw, that is really a cool composite. Nice sky reflections in the water, nice z-depthā¦
Only thing (besides the drop) is, the rain looks a bit chunky, like fast falling snowflakesā¦ Iād prefer some thinner streaks.
Good work!
- Jonas
rquinn
#36
Hi ok i have started work on my emerging sequence of the sub coming out of the waterā¦
now to time my shots right i wanted to edit rough animaticsā¦
how do i render a movie file of what i see in the perspective viewport in 3dmaxā¦ i just want thatā¦ nothing moreā¦ so it can render in real timeā¦ and i can time my shots with the pace and start adding music and audioā¦ without having the final rendersā¦
rquinn
#37
http://www.artdirectionstudio.com/misc/sequence_animatic.mp4
Well there is your first look at the emerging sequence!
Ive decided to use 3 cameras and I might add wave motion to themā¦ I dont know if it needs itā¦
Tell me what u think!
jussing
#38
Hey Quinn, looking good, there. 
Comments on the editing:
[ul]
[li]The cut from A to B is too awkward, because the angles are very similar. Iād make that one shot if I were you, maybe move the camera from position A to B.[/li][li]Somethingās wrong with the cut from B to C, and from C to D too, but I canāt quite put my finger on it. Maybe itās because all cuts are virtually from the front, so theyāre not different enough - meaning, to the eye the object just ājumpsā in frame. Try moving the camera in clip C, making the angle more from behind.[/li][/ul]Of course, that would ruin the āfin going over the headā, as you have now, and that would be a shameā¦
I dunno exactly what to do, but all your angles are from the front, with the submarine coming almost head on. Try three more individual camera angles. (but be careful about cutring from left to right side of the submarine, that would make the sub change direction in frame, and thatās called breaking the 180 degree rule )
Cheers,
- Jonas
rquinn
#39
yeah i know about the rule
but damnā¦ i didnt want to do a behind shot just causeā¦ well its boring a sub from behindā¦ haha
hmmm i dunnoā¦ ill try making it more dynamic maybeā¦
jussing
#40
Hmm, then how about skipping shot A (keep it same angle as B), then shot C where we go under the fin, and then for the bellysplash shot, cut back to angle B?
rquinn
#41
yeah i know what you mean with all the angles from the frontā¦ i keep watching it over and over
and i think its cause some have motion and some dont so it throws you off balanceā¦
ill try adding more motion to all the shotsā¦
thanks for the help
EDIT::I REALLY LIKE MY HELI SHOTā¦ belly splash soā¦ i dont want to loose itā¦
ahh manā¦ i gotta get it to workā¦! hmmmmmmmmmmm
jussing
#42
Or, in the āunder the finā shot, you could hold that angle, pan right as the sub goes by, and then to shot D as it is, going over the sub.
rquinn
#43
TOO EXCITED!
This is fresh out of the render oven!
unfortunatly they take 29 minutes to render per frameā¦ ouch
but lucky for me only 30 of them are left to renderā¦
Anyway this is a rough photoshop mod of what the final product will look likeā¦!
the rain is still missing and im still thinking of withching over to 3d for thatā¦
but cant find a way to do nice rain
rquinn
#44
Im fiddling around with rainā¦
I cant believe I can do complex spashes and what not, but cant do ACCEPTABLE RAIN!
I want to have rain that you see even when it passes really close to the cameraā¦
the reason i dont see my rain close to camera is the motion blur samplesā¦ when the drop falls close to the lens its too quick for the camera to pick up. I would do that in real life by cranking up the fstop but how do you do that in 3d?
irrg I can see the deadline coming and its a pain!
plug3
#45
Cool stuff you got going. Iād like to see the anim when itās rendered.
For the close up rain maybe you could try to render a separate pass for your close up rain so you can really fine tune the look you want for those āheroā raindrops.
I had the same problem with my mist I couldnāt get it too look good in the foreground and in the background so I just made different passes.
rquinn
#46
thanks Ill try that
(1 more layer in this composite! lol wow this is soo complicated but so much fun when you see the results!)