FX WARS! THE BIG FREEZE! Dutchman (Hybrid)


#21

Wow! That was bloody awesome! :smiley: im gonna vote for you for sure sure, the freeze effect looks great :thumbsup:


#22

Nice work guys!
Good luck!


#23

hi :slight_smile:

I have to crit about the length of this clip. It was way too long. The walking gets kinda boring because it feels like you guys wanted to use all the live material you shot for this clip.

Just my 2 cents.


#24

one of the worst camerawork I have ever seen…


#25

Thanks for the comments!! The other entries are really stunning! But it’s to bad there are just 3 other entries… :shrug: I was especially exited about the Blender-team’s-entry… It feels good to be a bit more relaxt, without having a deadline within a week or so! :wink:

@ Job : Man, thanks! Your reply really makes me feel ā€˜it was worth the stess’…! Too bad I won’t be able to vote on your magnificent team, as you didn’t make the deadline… :shrug: I hope you’ll still make ā€˜something out of it, ones’! :smiley:

@ NickJushchyshyn : Thank you! Cool to hear ā€˜you think it’s nice work’! :slight_smile:

@ Pufferfish : I can agree about the length… At least: after finishing it all and so, and watching it back countless times, I must say the walking-to-the-destenation, cóuld have been a bit shorter. In fact we didn’t want to use all material we shot (we shot about twice as much, in total… Well… in fact we shot about 30 minutes in total for this challenge - which includes the 10 minutes of pyro-stuff :twisted: ), but we just wanted to fit it all with the soundtrack… In a very early stadium of this project we had decided to use this music.
But thanks for your ā€˜2 cents’: in my next project I’ll apply that! :slight_smile:

@ 4saken : The camwork could have been lots better indeed, but we choosed to simulate the ā€˜basic camerawork of a homevideo’, as this would be better to create the dramatic sense. You might wanna take a look at Alessandro Pacciani’s ā€˜BV-01’, as he used the same camerastyle in his veeery-awesome short movie! Also Michael Bay is known of ā€˜this kind of film-style’.

Thanks for the comments and reactions so far! I hope to get some more feedback, it’s always good to hear what people think of the final result of lot’s of hours work! (and lots of fun) :slight_smile:
-Gijs


#26

Hey man…congrats on getting your entry done!

I must say that I think it’s amazing how MASSIVE of an undertaking this film was. In the end you had over 6 minutes of finalized video which is pretty incredible (also taking into consideration the number of shots you edited together!) Also, the fact that you did all (or most) of your effects in AfterFX is quite an achievement too.

Here are some critiques though :):

-the intro was good…good solid editing and cinematography choices…but once the guy starts walking through the city the camera was WAY too shaking and there were simply too many cuts…the whole ā€œwalking through the city to plant the bombā€ sequence was far too long in my opinion, and was very disorienting

-It would have been nice to see your main character die in the ā€œfreezeā€ as well (along with all the other people etc…the fact that the bad guy got off alive AND the fact that he was closest to the bomb made that part of the story a tad too awkward for me (ie…how do you explain that?? ;))

Anywho…once again I was very impressed by the amount of work that clearly went into this! Hope to see you in the next challenge :slight_smile:


#27

maybe, if the rest wants to help a little :stuck_out_tongue: but actually i think it’s better to start with a new fresh project… i mean hot project :smiley:


#28

@ ivanisavich : Thank you for congratulating me with that 6 minutes of final film! I must say it wĆ”s quite an undertaking, but it all went pretty fluid (as I have not had óne technical problem…> it was a 100% creative challenge! :slight_smile: ).
The effects-shots were indeed done for 100% in After Effects (but the mattepaintings and so of course in Photoshop). It’s really interesting (IMO) to only use all options of AFX: you get to know all functions better, and you get more and more creative with the ā€˜limited buttons’!
Let’s say something about your critiques:

  1. About the intro: I’m glad you like it, as the making of it cost quite some time (it as all shot on bluescreen :slight_smile: ) to get it look dynamic enough and so… My goal was especially to get a soft of ā€˜sin-city’-look, but that didn’t went out well… :wink: At least it looks a little bit mysterious, I think.
    The stuff after that, yeah, now I’m really aware that the walk took too long… But as I told before (above), I had to fit it to the soundtrack. I can believe it looks desorientating, but I myself didn’t notice that, as I live near that town (and I know where I shot everything).
    The bad-camwork was meant to ā€˜desorientate’ you, but maybe it was a bit tóó, indeed.
    By the way: the editing process worked very nice and fluid with ā€˜Edius’: it works 100% realtime - even with filters, moblur, or slow-motion. Also it has a vĆ©ry nice slow-motion option, that inbetweens so that you get smooth motions. As you can see in the final result, I used this option a lot.
  2. The fact is that he has a ā€˜warmth-suit/shield’ on, that he fixes to his body in the intro. So it’s not that we haven’t been thinking of this… It’s just because it would give a nicer ā€˜end of the movie’, if he would stand up, and be the only survivor in the city (as the last shot was originally planned to be a zoomout from his eye, till you see the whole city being white. we canceled that shot because of the time). And btw: in every action movie the hero survives! :beer:
    Thanks for your cool critique (I’ll learn from it) & Maybe see you in the next challenge (but I think I’ll first entry the Spectacular-challenge, and finish that).

@ Job : Sad that at the end all of you work will go ā€˜staight away’, but at least you learned something of the challenge… When talking about hobbies it’s always better to work on a fresh project that your fully motivied for! :slight_smile:

[b]Sadly, today my host stopped serving me, so the file is offline! If you have some bandwidth you could miss, please PM/mail/reply, as we don’t get people watching with the file being offline…! Hopefully somebody can help me (soon!)

[/b]Thanks for the replies again, and hopefully we’ll get more of them… Also I’m desperately hoping for a new host for the file…! :blush:
-Gijs


#29

All set Gijs:

Hopefully this will hold you guys over for the voting period.
Tyson also mentioned having some space, so maybe there will be additional mirrors up soon as well.

Good luck!


#30

If there’s really the need, I could also upload it to my second server which also has some traffic to spare. Glad I could help you out. :slight_smile:


#31

@ NickJushchyshyn : Thanks for thinking with me! Tyson contacted me, and the file is up on his server as well now…! Great to see that even other participants help me with this! It feels really great to see what people here want to do to get things right! :slight_smile:

@ neostar : There’s no need to host it somewhere else. :slight_smile: The file is on 3 different servers now, so there should happend something reĆ”lly strange, to get it offline completely. And ofcourse: thanks again. :wink:


A list of where you can get the final movie:

The 320x240 version that Timon put online: [20 MB]
http://www.timon-royer.com/DUTCHMAN_FXWARS(320x240).mov

 The 320x240 version that Tyson put online: [20 MB]
 [http://www.theonlyt.com/Main/DUTCHMAN_FXWARS(320x240).mov](http://www.theonlyt.com/Main/DUTCHMAN_FXWARS%28320x240%29.mov)

The 640x480 version that Josh hosted for me: [48 MB]
[http://www.massrender.com/soft/Vide...ARS-640x480.mov](http://www.massrender.com/soft/Video/DUTCHMAN_FXWARS-640x480.mov)

The 640x480 version that Timon hosted for me [48 MB]
http://www.timon-royer.com/DUTCHMAN_FXWARS(640x480).mov.mov

Any reactions on the movie? :slight_smile:
-Gijs

[edit: added the link to the fullres version that Timon hosted :slight_smile: ]


#32

massrender.com is unavailable right now, I could host the highres-version too, I just need a link to get it from you.

Timon


#33

Unless we didn’t won any prices :wink: , we have a little surprise! I’ve got a little thingy to show you guys’ngalls something behind the VFX!

I’ve screen-shotted the Flowchart (ā€˜nodeview’) of the AE-composition of the Freezing Girl. The discription is on the JPG itself. As I had to get about 10 screenshots together there are some ā€˜weird lines’, I hope you won’t mind! :wink:

The link: CLICK!

For any questions about it, please just ask! :slight_smile:

I hope you can learn something out of it, or something! :scream:
-Gijs


#34

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