Fruit

#1

My first pass at this one

#2

Hi Scott -

I can’t see the attachment.

Please link to your reference image as well as the image you’re posting.

-jeremy

PS - This is a test to see if the “attach image” feature works on this forum, since you are the first to try it:

#3

Ah, OK, image attachments aren’t viewable. I will contact someone about that.

Until then, please post the way Sheldon did, by making sure the image is on-line somewhere (it could be your free cgsociety portfolio page if you don’t have a website) and posting the URL here.

-jeremy

#4

I use www.photobucket.com
create an account, upload your images and there will be these tags, simply copy paste here and you are done.

#5

(thanks for the image tips!)

Here's my first go, with just a key light and a fill:

[[img]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8024/fruitv01002apt2.jpg[/img]](http://imageshack.us)



And the reference for it:

[[img]http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7269/refb2ny2.jpg[/img]](http://imageshack.us)

I’ve been looking at some other reference, just to see how different fruit mix with lighting, and started to add in some bounce light and a general blue-ish fill. Right now I’m not happy with the hard shadows (especially around the bananas) and feel like the pear is getting too much of a hot spot. The new fill is a bit strong. Thanks for the feedback folk…

#6

Your key should hit more of the front upper right side of the fruits, especially the top ones.

You might even unlock the camera parameters and rotate the camera around so we see more of the edge of the cloth, so you can make the upper right area pure white. If you want to keep the camera angle the same you could put a bright light on the upper right of the cloth. Anyway, don’t leave your scene darkest where your reference is brightest.

If you look at where the brightest part of some of the oranges in your reference are, the corresponding part of your pear looks pure black in that spot, so the key definately needs to be swung around.

After you have the key from the upper right working, there’s also a kick from the upper left in your reference. Notice that and compare to some of your back fruits: they look dark on the upper left where the kick should be, and have a highlight that is more frontal instead.

-jeremy

#7

Hi,

I believe I’ve fixed the problem with viewing attachments, can you please let me know if you can see attachments now?

Thanks;

#8

I only see a text-based link to the filename, not a thumbnail, and when I click on it it says I don’t have permission.

Let me try attaching a new thumbnail:

[edit - new thumbnails are are the same as the old, no thumbnail inline and no permission when I click on it.]

#9

Here’s another go at it…I’m still working on getting the shadowing correct beneath the banana.

#10

Really nice! Yes, you could keep working on the plate shadowing and bounce a little, but you’re getting it!

-jeremy

#11

So here’s take two…
It’s still pretty dark for me, so I’m going to start brightening it up in the bounce and fill.
But I’m pretty happy with where the shadows are finally heading, and enjoy a few moments (like the upper banana stem).
Thanks for any feedback.

#12

Hi Scott,

That starts to look preatty good. Try maybe a directional light with no shadows and maybe a low value on the intensity.

#13

That’s looking good!

The upper right corner should be white, not gray. The cloth near the upper right looks very high contrast, hitting pure black and pure white all within inches of eachother, maybe you could pull back a little on the white and fill in the black there a lot.

In your reference, there’s white highlights, then a bright color yellow around it. On the orange and the banana in your scene, it looks like just a hot yellow highlight, never hitting white. See if you can fix that. I don’t know if different lights need to be linked to those fruits than to your grapes and others, or if it really needs a reflection of something white there…

Bounce light looks good where you have it. Probably along the left side and lower left of the top banana we expect a little more bounce from the screen-left area, which is getting some light. Try to keep this really local though, so it doesn’t mess up the rest of your scene.

-jeremy

#14

Update: Things are fixed with regard to attachments, I can see them now!

-jeremy

#15

Yeah for attachments!
Do you have a preference for how we show our work: attachments vs. posting?

#16

You are given a limited amount of total space for attachments, so when you have attached a few to some messages you’d need to go back and delete old ones before making new, so that could be a limitation. On the other hand, some of the image links people have posted have been loading from sites that responded very slowly, so if you don’t have a hosting location with decent bandwidth, maybe attachments have their merits. (I’d also be interested to see people create cgportfolios on this site and link to there instead of off-site hosting, and see if that works out to be both fast and spacious enough for all the versions of different projects…)

-jeremy

PS - Not sure we’re through all the tech problems, there may still be people who don’t have access to this forum that we’ll need to check on.

#17

I’ve set the attachment limit for this class up to 5MB. If that’s not going to be enough, Jeremy, drop Andrew and me an email and we can see what will work for everyone :slight_smile:

#18

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more…

#19

It looks like you reference has more bounce light (more light on parts of the shadow side of the fruits.) The grapes and the apple leaf would look more translucent if they had more fill light extending the key light shading further around.

The bananas are looking over-exposed, and so is the orange. In your reference, there’s a white highlight, then around it there’s fully lit skin surface that isn’t too overexposed to see the skin texture. You have a bright yellow highlight that continues into an overexposed area of the skin surface on the whole top of the banana and orange and pear.

-jeremy

#20

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