EIM Needs a Name

#61

Those are some great suggestions. However, I’m not a big fan of “Tesla”, as it reminds me of the 80s-90s hair metal band…and while I did like some of their music, it’s just NOT something I wish to associate with one of my favorite 3D modelers.

So far, ‘Factory’ is my fave, but I kind of like this idea as a twist…

Electric Image Ignition Factory

or ‘Ignite’

I think it should be a verb and point toward unlimited creation capabilities.

‘Electric Image Creation Factory’

‘Electric Image Catalyst’

‘Catalyst’

‘Infuser’

‘Infusion’

‘Force’

EI Point Manipulator

EI Mesh Master

‘Mesh Master’

‘Vertex’

‘Vortex’

‘EI Triangulator’

‘EI Quadrangulator’

‘EI Polyvision’ - combining polys and SDS

EI Subdoll

EI Polyfreeze

EI Polyforce

EI Tweak

EI Sculpt

EI Orthography

EI Sandbox

EI Reservoir

EI Creation

EI Creator

EI Metaphor

EI Simile

EI Ortho

EI Bool (Stephen King readers will understand)

EI Sci-shop

EI Cutaway

EI Substance (Sub-Stance)

EI Rev (revolution) (revolutionary)

EI Pulse

I may have duplicated an idea by mistake…it’s late and there are 4 pages to this thread, so if I duplicated, I apologize! Just a few random thoughts…

Ryan

#62

Creator fits in well with Animator, although I’m still partial to Factory.

Electric Image Builder.

Electric Image Bodybuilder.

Electric Image Schwarzenegger.

Electric Image Mr Universe.

The Gov’nor

#63

Factory
Creator
Construct
Modeller
…are the best, not necessarily in that order, Factory is very good, not least because of the fact. association.

#64

personally i like factory as well, but I would also suggest something short and easy remember (for instance Maya, Modo, Silo four letters magic)

maybe just EION / eION

#65

What i really don´t understand why can´t the program keep it´s name EIM, i mean EITG has EI in the Name, Animator has EI in the name and when people ask how does it compare to (old) EIM, then you can´t say it´s the new EIM because it´s a completely different product, and not an update, or what?

EIM still sounds best to me.

Regards
Stefan

#66

Yes, EIM works best for me too.

#67

Perhaps the new name, EI-Something ought to be for the complete package, and its components keep on being named EI Modeler and EI Camera.

That, or do as Apple does for OS X: turn edition codenames into official ones. So the same way the latest Windows is Vista and the latest OSX is Leopard, this would be EIM (and EIAS?) Something Edition…

But then we would have this same issue every couple of years, aaargh!

#68

Ha! I still have my old Powermac9600 running Pixels3D 3.7 (Pixel Putty’s newer name). I haven’t used it lately, but it’s still fun to play with for some things. Render time is um, well, SLOW…

Ryan

#69

Personally I’m in favor of moving away from the current Electric Image monikers all together for any potential “new” product in order to establish that this is really a different product. It may be based on EIM, but its not going to be EIM.

#70

If EITG has any intelligent marketeers left, they too will see it this way. “Electric Image” has negative brand recognition these days, if it has any at all. Most who know the name assume the company has long since folded. Newcomers like Silo and Modo are far more recognizable, and they’ve been around a fraction of the time of EI.

Consider this: How excited would we be if Strata came out with a new modeler? We might have some mild curiosities, but wouldn’t we sort of assume it was a repackaging of tired old technology? Then consider Modo. Is there any “Lightwave” under that hood? There would have to be, given those at the helm. But the new branding makes it seem totally fresh to us.

So I agree with Brian: Start from scratch. Keep the new EIM (well) separated from the “Electric Image” trade name.

#71

yeah, whenever i tell someone i do 3d animations, they always ask what i use, and instead of saying something everyone has heard of like maya or max, i always have to sort of half apologetically explain that i use electric image animation system, which is a mouthful. then the blank look crosses their face and i have to explain all the reasons why i use that. get’s kinda tiresome after awhile…

plus then we’d be elevated out of the ‘specialty 3d software’ category on this forum…

#72

Strata is a good example because they do have new products. Strata Photo & Strata Live.

Neither have generated much excitement because these products are not very good. Strata 3D has some good integration with Photoshop but the ‘Suite’ does not work well together and it really shows that other bits are 3rd party applications shoe-horned in to the Strata brand.

Whilst EIAS does indeed have a past it also has a great history in the movie industry. The challenge is to make that story current. Perhaps the movie industry has moved on a bit and adopted other tools in it’s CG pipeline but the Electric Image saga is not over yet.

Lateral thought and inventiveness are rare commodities and personally I favour their use in developing the application rather than a new identity.

BB

#73

No choice, then: it’s got to be “Porno for Polygons”. No blank faces anymore! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

#74

Ok, now i understand a bit more why EIM should get a new name. Thanks for the explaination.

Regards
Stefan

#75

i agree completely, but i don’t think the developers at EITG are putting much time into this. i think marketing threw this one in our laps to ‘test the demographic’. it may or may not prove useful, but at the very least it’s good for a laugh…

i did like EION, but it’s too much like e-on, and as a Vue 6 infinte user, i’d rather shy away from any invocation of the random crash/wierd behavior/slow-as-mollasses render time monster…

#76

Since the closest thing to a rebranding EIAS ever got (before the current EITG era) was the EI Universe one by the Play guys, is there any data on how it did impact sales and mindshare at the time?

#77

Amp

or

Amp3D

like “E” do a turning around. AmpEd. Amp3D. it’s Electric. or too much coffee. :slight_smile:

I’m pretty amped right now. haha

I like Blitz or Elements too.

#78

I think it would be a mistake to drop the name Electric Image unless the actual underlying product is changing completely. Any attempt to fool people that Electric Image is not Electric Image by calling it Aztec or something would be worse than keeping the name despite its relative obscurity today. Besides, Electric Image is the best name out there. Names such as Maya, modo, Silo, and Rhino are meaningless, uninspired, boring, and arbitrary. What sells the products is word of mouth. That’s what EI needs to work on.

I say keep Electric Image. Imagine how foolish Apple would look today if they’d ditched the names “Apple” and “Mac” when they were beleagured.

#79

(in a way they did it: now it’s “Mac”, no longer “Macintosh”)

The thing is, bbuxton has a point: try as they might, the Strata guys will never generate the same kind of excitement they did in the old days with the “Strata” brand. They have this stigma of being “old tech”, justified or not.

But, as you say, hiding the EI part would be borderline dishonest, and clean-slating its heritage a shame, even though this history of not being able to tell everybody how much of use it has been in so many productions because of legalese and such makes one question its importance, marketing-wise.

Anyway, if this is simply about renaming EIM when sold as an independently packaged app (we think), calling it EI Megathingy seems quite harmless: it keeps the EI around.

(actually, perhaps a good thing would be to rename EIAS as plain “Electric Image”, shortening so the EIAS mouthful, and “Scoobydoodler” or something for EIM)

What do you think of what the ViaCAD guys are doing with the old Concepts line and the new ViaCADs and such, name-wise?

#80

Yeah. A few of us were arguing for this what seems like a decade ago. Of course the name should just be Electric Image. That’s what everybody calls it anyway. It’s like when Federal Express finally went “okay” and changed the name to “FedEx” since that’s what everybody called it.

Just plain Electric Image with an Animator, a Camera, and a Modeler.

It’s like in design: A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.