Very interesting discussion, just wanted to give my humble opinion, whenever i use blueprints they never seem to match correctly front/side/top no matter how much i adjust them in photoshop, it’s clear that they aren’t 100% accurate, regarding n-gons i always like to use quads and very rarely i use triangles but i think 2xbo it right sometimes the smoothing algorithm does a good job and sometimes it fails, probably whenever the surface has more curvature is where it has a hard time keeping the correct volume however if u think ahead and plan how u want to lay out the topology u can make it in quads no problem, that aside i really like the rig, it’s incredible, far beyond my skills, great job.
classic Range Rover
system
#14
Hi
I can’t say much about the model itself (which looks clean and solid anyway) since i don’t know it very well, but let me say your rigging technique is really good and refined. My best wishes for the further developments.
ITA
Non posso dire molto sul modello in se’ (che comunque appare pulito e ben eseguito) poiche’ non conosco nei dettagli quest’auto, ma lasciami dire che la tua tecnica di animazione è davvero ottima. I miei migliori auguri per i successivi sviluppi.
-Davide
jacopoS
#15
Hi guys, I’m glad you like the stuff I’m doing. It keeps me motivated!
Yes, we all agree about blueprints: they cannot be trusted.
About the n-gons argument, I guess it’s basically a matter of being aware that the Catmull-Clark algorithm will generate a star-point in the middle of each n-gon. If one can use star-points properly, he should be able to use n-gons the same way as well…
Lastly, that rig is making me very proud! Thank you all very much, guys!
Here a small update:
(some minor tweaks, starting to put things back together and redoing the side-mirrors)
[img]http://s26.postimg.org/nzd2gqzbt/range_Rover_WIP_010.jpg[/img]
2xbo
#16
Hi jacopoS,
Thats looks much more solid update!!
I looking really good and the mirror looks also fine!
Looking forward to see the next update.
About your rig. Is really impressive. I really like it. Hope you will like to share this great rig with us.
Cheers!!
jacopoS
#17
Thank you, man!
I’ve started to blockout the framework. I’m going to be very sloppy about it since I don’t want to spend too much time on that. I will just be a little bit more accurate in the areas behind the wheels and around the front and rear.
About the rig, somethimes I consider the possibility of putting together a series of video tutorials about it but DON’T take this for granted. It may eventually happen if nothing gets in the way preventing it from happening…
Cheers! 
2xbo
#18
Yes, I think… well depends what do want to show… Somteimes the framebody is not important.
I you want to show the framebody is another story like interstellarOverdrive is planning.
Well I wil glad to see those Videos 
Cheers!
jacopoS
#19
Hey guys!
Well, in my specific case, I don’t really know a lot about what’s inside a car. My knowledge about it is quite superficial. So for me, right now, ther’s no point on trying to recreate a perfect copy of the framework and mechanics. I just want it to fill the emptiness with some details where needed, to work fine from a rigging point of view and to be pretty enough visually.
I’m already working on the suspensions rig while I model.
Here an unpdate!
jacopoS
#22
still working on the wheels:
Suggestions on the rim and tread design are appreciated.
Cheers!
2xbo
#23
HM! I just one thing I dont like it!!!³³
You are the only one you have your script. :buttrock:
Just kidding.
THANX FOR SHARING this video.
You was using your script right?
It is a really nice detailed Tire.
Looking forward to the next modeling part
Cheers! And happy modeling!!
BTW… I will like to learn how to rig like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReWu0F1s6vQ
jacopoS
#24
Hey man!
Sorry for taking so much time for answering. My creativity was a little bit stuck during the last few days. :banghead:
I’m back to this project now!
Yes, I was using my plugin. I didn’t really had the chance to test it untill now and now I have a better idea of what should I improve about it.
Soon I’ll post some more updates and some rig details!
By the time I’ll get to the actual rigging stage I might decide to share my process or maybe part of it! I still cannot predict my future though. So, keep your fingers crossed!
2xbo
#25
Hi jacopoS,
Dont worrie for the late reply. You was also available to helping me in these days
Extremely appreciated!!
Glad your back on this one!!
If you need any Hard Surface help, just let me know.
I will for sure help you on this one 
BTW. I will follow your updates. That script for the car is driving me crazy. I really like it.
If you will like to keep your rig a bit in secret… dont worries I can understand that
Fingers all are crossed ³³³
The best for you mate!!
jacopoS
#26
Thank you, mate! I’ll surely ask you a few questions along the way. :bowdown:
Here some more mechanics and stuff:
2xbo
#27
Sure. I will totally glad to help you.
Those mechanics they are looking extremely good ³³
jacopoS
I have a question.
Where I can see those rims?
I couldnt find any info about those rims.
jacopoS
#28
well… I just invented them. :rolleyes:
I wanted them to have a strong off-road design but at the same time I wanted the inner brake disk to be visible.
What do you think?
2xbo
#29
OOPS! Taking a look on your last post of the Rim there is sentence that I didnt saw.
Sorry about that.
Well I like the rim looks really good and close to the design of picture here:
I will suggest you to put that kind of nipple where the logo it is.
I cant really see it correctly, but did you pull the edges straight forward?
Im sepaking from the arms in direction to the break.
BTW:
As you can see the rim looks (compare to the to the tire) in your case way too small.
I will make the rim bigger than the tire.
As I said in my thread. If you take real measurements this will help you
The measurements for the wheel are:
255/60R18 aprox.
I know you now this, but just in case or for those are looking on your Thread and they dont know!
jacopoS
#30
Hi Xavier, Thank you for the feedback!
I’ve adjusted the overall proportions. You were right! While making the rim I was like “yea, whatever…” :arteest:
It should be better now. The bolts are probably too far apart though. I’m sure there must be some rule for that as well.
Do you mean the blue area in the picture below? In that case, yes.
2xbo
#31
Hi jacopoS,
Yes looks much better :keenly:
For the bolts this is the must accurate Info I found on the web.
Bolts Specifications
But in your case looks more or less correctly. I cant tell it 100%, but looks accurate.
For the blue areas. Yes I meant that.
I will suggest you to give an angle. They looks great your rim, but with an extremely hard cut.
Is just a suggestion. No body is going to take a look on that like me
Giving the rim an angle you will see that your rim is going a change and in a good way
jacopoS
#32
Hey man!
I took your suggestion about the extrusion angle and I like it much more already. Thank you for that!
I kept working a little bit more on it:
I’m probably going to leave the bolts the way they are in the end.