well isn’t it just a fact of life that people with a better reputation get more attention? I mean ever noticed how big the name of actors on dvd and video covers are these days 
A name and his reputation counts, sometimes even more than the work they do or make.
And god this thread goes fast When I’m done posting this I’ll probably be on page 3
Cgkoko : exact ! the toxichimp mesh is an excellent example too ! 
Equinnox : the mod has talk : Tone down…
I never say you treat the other like shit… Hopefully for a mod you treat them like equal… hopefully… You started 3D since September ? then it conforts my opinion, and you agree with it too. You have posts coz you’re a mod.
But i want to congratulate your skills in a so short time of learning. Like .::Strike::. too … really impressive. Maybe one day your skills will be in concurrence or in work together, so i prefer to stop this talk now before i have a bad feeling about some people here… (isn’t it .::STRIKE::. ? )
hm…I agree with some of you…but not with all you said
I think equinoxxs entry is one of the best, and because of that he get many replys
but I also have to agree that for example pascal has only shown a simple picture and had 4 pages of replys…
same for OZ, sure his work is great, but he showed 3 sketches and got 10 sites with replys…I don’t say that they weren’t good but 10 pages?!
And I also think that 1 good critic is better than 5 sites full with good ida, nice modeling…etc.
Sure it’s nice if somebody says that he likes your work…but id don’t help you
I know my work is not as good as the work from oz, pascal or someone else…but I think it would me help more if somebody replys to my thread than it would help pascal if somebody replys to his thread
Originally posted by boromir
[B]the mod has talk : Tone down…You started 3D since September ? then it conforts my opinion, and you agree with it too. You have posts coz you’re a mod.[/B]
what i mean with " i started 3d in september" is that i am as much a newbie as everyone else . . . and that i get post and views based on the fact that people like my model, not my status . . .
so no, i do NOT agree with you on that matter . . .
if you read my thread carefully, there are actually few ooh’s & aah’s and a lot of change this change that 
as for town down, that’s cause you barge in head first talking about things you know nothing about . . . it’s not meant as a warning, just a means to an end to keep this thread friendly, since it is indeed a matter that must be spoken about.
I just don’t like the fact that you presume things and are prejudiced about moderators and other people of status . . .
Originally posted by boromir
Maybe one day your skills will be in concurrence or in work together, so i prefer to stop this talk now before i have a bad feeling about some people here… (isn’t it .::STRIKE::. ? )
uh ? Personnaly i prefer concurrence than work together if i understood well your sentence and as concerning you… and i don’t think i’ll made 3D a job if i still understand what you mean, coz i already have one… so no concurrence neither… now you can sleep peacefully… thanks… and i don’t care about the fact you could have a bad feeling 'bout me yes, for sure ! now let’s continue my challenge… bye…
It´s all about entertainment. Look at oz´s thread or remember the three musketeer´s during the gods and demons challenge. People want to be entertained and threads full of funny pics jokes get most hits. Reputation does a lot, too. But you can´t (luckily) stop that - “model for the fun of it, but don´t have fun with it…” :shame:
Hey. If your thread don’t get any reply go to a shrink or something.
We are here to learn, maybe some more than others.
My thread have no more than 5 or 6 replies and i’m ok with that, because i’m not expecting anithing from anybody, the only thing I do expect is that everybody do the best on its own thread.
Don’t complain that no one comes and pass the hand on your heads. We are all grown up boys, we know what means to get a NO in our face. :shame:
Instead of wasting your time with discussion, try to make what you want better. :airguitar
whats up guys i’m brand new here, first comp. i can honnestly admit to som c@ck sucking (pascal), only because i have followed his works for a while and think he’s a great artist,when he signed on i had to say i apreciate him as an artist and ask for crits on my beast. rather than get bitter about the star treatment i try to bust my ass to beat these pros. these pros also have alot more to live up to, if they suck or something looks like shit then everybody here is gonna see. the mods do get more hits but i’m cool with that, i just think the better people should give more insight and tips on how there achiving that top quality. life isn’t fair but us little guys gotta show are tenaciousness, and make these pros worry that we will have their jobs soon. the wow and awsome comments are okay but if you have 25 second to type that bullshit look at the persons work and find something to crit.
if its good say why if it sucks say why.
ive got to say its an honor for me (3d loving student) to compete with noxx, pascal, clark, and everyone else for that matter. it will just make me strive for the best.
i spent my 2 cents, so thats my bubblegum wrapper i found my pockets.
EVERYONE:keep doing what it is you do best
my bob
Not to throw fuel on this burning stupidity, but what a load of shit. I haven’t ‘been’ here long, but have read a while before, and I’ve seen how things work. There are some valid points in there, but that’s not the way to make them.
Granted, people get replies based on ‘rep’. But it’s usually earned rep, and the way people get a rep is to do good work and not be a jerk…a lot of people ‘know’ each other also from posting in each other’s threads or etc. over time and tend to go check out what their friends or people whose work they admire are doing before people they don’t know, and maybe post to encourage them. While this can lead to threads dropping back that deserve to be looked at, I don’t think this is the popular people’s fault, and I don’t see a need to bitch in this fashion and deride their artistic ability. Saying anyone gets posts because they’re a mod is ridiculous too, because usually someone becomes a mod after they’re known here, or post a lot, so the same thing applies.
There are over 200 entries this time, and it’s nearly impossible to see them all. I do try and make an effort, but it’s ludicrous at this point. I haven’t even had time to work on my own thread (hence it’s on page 80). The same thing happens in the WIP forum, the Gallery forum, etc. there are so many threads and images and people, how can they possibly all get equal attention? The only way I’ve seen threads stay alive and at the top is if a lot of people post in them, or the thread starter updates/replies all the time. The more updates, the more views, the more chance people see it, the more comments, etc. that seems the only way to survive. Because of this huge signal to noise ratio, you tend to gravitate towards people’s threads that you’ve seen before. I really don’t think there’s any way to have some kind of ‘ultra-objective’ hippie commune when there’s human beings involved, people are made to sort things in that fashion automatically. I think you just have to take the whatever-you-consider-good with whatever-you-consider-bad. (‘you’ meaning anyone, not you specifically.) People are strange.
All that said, there are some one-line-gushing-post epidemics at times, but that’s just how it is…unless there’s a huge moderator timesink, I don’t see a way around it. Some of the Wip/Gallery stuff has been royally hosed because of people going back months and posting “that’s cool!!” in 5 star threads that already had hundreds of replies. It makes no sense. But, wtf. As said, the objective is to be entertained, inspired, learn, and why not keep it fun?. People get silly and joke around or are over-enthusiastic, personality comes into play too. I still consider this a ‘serious’ and ‘pro’ forum just the same.
Anyway, it’s probably too early for me to be writing like this, I should have some caffeine, but have seen lots of posts, and lots of posts like this, and figured I’d say my bit. Whatever.
Amen to that H-Cube . . . . couldn’t have said it better myself [as shown by earlier posts:blush:
sorry no time to read anything , but i think life is life ,a spielberg movie is not better then another little movie by mr. that no one know ,but spielberg is know by everyone and have talent,so people go see is movie first,so in 3d its the same thing and in all things why watching something like that when you be sure to look at really interesting thing .
And anyway lildragon make a really good job with the thumb ,its how i check thread ,i check the thumbs and go see what seam interesting i dont care about the name and the function .
and sorry but i think this subject is going nowhere
have to agree with gabe…I also use the wip thumb page for this
it’s just that some people exaggerate with the comments…thats all I wanted to say
Hypercube: :eek: now that’s the opposite of the one-line epidemic hehe. You can write a book about this stuff 
I agree on most things really, exept for the first thing. The point of this thread was, the fact that people with a “rep” get a “Wow that’s great” for modelling a cube or just showing a small scetch.
Which is the thing that’s a bit unfair, unfortantly you can’t change this I think…
And I know it’s stupid to talk about this, but obvieusly it’s on peoples minds. And needs to be discussed about and worked out.
Good point, I should have woken up a bit more first…but then I’d be REALLY long-winded. :rolleyes:
Some of the built-in ooh and ahh can be a little overboard…but, I dunno, they’re just kind of anticipating great things…there’s certain people it seems like when they join a challenge they should be accompanied by the imperial march from star wars, it spells impending doom.
Ah well. Mo’ posts, Mo’ problems. Keep on truckin’.
P.S. I think the thumbnail page does help out in here TONS, that’s a good point, and due kudos to Lil’ D…wonder if an auto-thumb system could be worked out for the other forums, once the challenge site’s is figured out.
Yes I agree that a lot of good stuff is getting left in the dust. There are now ~270 entries? Ive read a few threads of people that have just given up because they dont get any feedback.
I myself have had 4 people respond (one was a friend). 7 posts were mine. I even tried giving away money to people responding but it hasnt worked Maybe i need some boobies on my character! Cudos to Zr0-1 for all his posts, i believe he has replied to everyones thread.
I hope you mods consider making a new structure for the challenge on your new site for the massive popularity that has become of this
Hey this is an interseting thread, people can talk a bit more freely. My only crit, boromir, you’ve only had 3 posts and you want to change the system? people that have been around and contribute on a regualr basis have built up this community and deserve whatever attension they get. Stick around a bit longer and then your opinion will be more valid.
Of course, ZrO-1 is the coolest guy with too much time on his hands here. He is a machine with his posting. If he likes your stuff, take it as a great compliment. He’s probably seen most of them. Notice how it also makes his stuff get looked at by more people. Everyone here really just needs the crit and comments. The OHHS and AHHS are going to happen from time to time. But watch out. A few of us might really come after your work and give it a good working over. I enjoy the crits on my own work and love to help when I can with other people’s stuff.
I know that the next challenge site will be way better… Remember that it started with only 30 guys and now there’s more than 120 people in this one… Yes it`s not always fair, yes it need some revisions…But most of the guys who where on every challenge form the beginning have improved their skills a lot … having experienced guys participating to the challenges add a lot to the motivation I think
The only way I’ve found I can improve my 3d skills is by giving myself a project. These challenges inspire people to become better. Those that give up aren’t doing themselves justice. True, it’s hard for someone to go through and crit every entry, if you did that, you’d never get any work done! So some may get left in the corner for a while to gather a bit of dust. (I myself limit myself to a few comments a day. If I had something faster than a dial-up connection maybe I’d do more!).
Let’s face it, my entry is nowhere near a winner, but it gets a couple of comments now and then, and that motivates me to do better!
I’m just glad this forum exists!
for example toxichimp is another example of ‘lost good modeling’