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#1

Well first of all, i just want to congratulate the great idea the administrators had to have done this fabulous site about CG.

I follow for some months now the different challenges, and challengers in the same time. I can see there’s some excellent works, excellent meshes and most of all : excellent ideas. That’s a great thing to see all of you from different countries, challenging their own way, having their own vision of CG art.

There’s some people who have a professionnal touch inside this massive members, and that’s why now i’m writing to ask some confused questions about the challenge threads poll.

Effectively i saw (as i already said) some excellent work, and however i noticed that members don’t care about these ones coz there’s not “known”. And to the contrary, people who are known by their names or profil, are more often visited, commented and adulated than the others… I take two example :

First the thread of Pascal Blanché (who is a great artist) for this challenge last update :

As you know it’s a nice model and it has alot of comments, woooohooo, GREAATTT, etc…

To compare it, i choosed a beast of Sivel who’s for me a kinda same beast in its form :

Nice uh ? However this one don’t have the middle of the comments it merits nor views… It was the same when the “stars” system was working, and now i understand why administrators deleted it.

As a professional in CG, between this 2 images, my choice is done. It’s only wips, but however by the quality of the Sivels one there’s no comparasions.

Another example with the one of Equinnox :

Nice model, muscles, and clean modelisation, and however to compare it with another samelike beast if you take the .:STRIKE:. one :

there’s no more comparasion too… this last one is a piece of art, and there’s some comments, views, just because maybe equinnox is more known in CGTALK than …:STRIKE:.

I don’t search to bother you all with this kinda of reflexion, but maybe all of you should go in more newbies threads, and comment them, to help them in their scenes, models, etc… coz even if newbies they are, they have sometimes same level, and sometimes higher than the known guys (i respect however).

Please, just give an eye on some of them, coz maybe one day they’ll be professionals too, and maybe sooner as you think.

So i ask them not forgetting too, they were newbies one day, and they have to respect the new CG artists, as all of you need to respect good work, and admit it.


#2

Thanks for that post man.
Support where support is needed.

Sorry to plaspheme but Pascal Blanché may well be a great artist but his bull isn’t that extraordinary (yet). He’s getting praise in advance.
Hmm, and it’s true that with all these entries, a lot of BoB’s look alike.


#3

Yea I was thinking alone the lines of this myself. The first few challenges were fine, but after the Enchanted forest, this one is huge…!

I suspect for the next one, the mods should concider a few seperate achallenges. As there are soo many enties here (10 pages at my last count) that its impossible to get through them all. Hence the only ones that end up getting attention is the “Elite”. and these people can get away with posting a box, as an early concept sketch, with a blurb, then they constantly have hundreds of replys say “wahoo, great idea” or “oh no, I may as well give up since youve entered” (Yea Matt and pascal, Im looking at your threads:p ) SO what happens is whenever we log on we always have these ppl on the first page or so.

Speaking for myself, i usually dont go past the first page when siftingthrough these:surprised and I bet alot of you dont (Except Zero-1…youre in every damn thread:scream: )as we dont have the time.

So one Idea could be to have, say three different levels of enties and ppl can enter in the one that suits them best. But the thing that makes this place amazing, is the mixture of professions and students. So If we divide it up, youll get ppl possibly sticking in there own forums.

Oh and dont get this messed up with a case of sour grapes, Just Ive been thinking about this too for a few days :smiley:


#4

Well, thats not pascal or equinoxx fault. they are well know because they are good and they deserve their status.
the problem is actually all the c#ck suckers around here.
theres one thing that i like about spiraloid forums:
“NO WOW!!! OMG!!! AWESOME!!!URE A GOD!!! REPLIES ALLOWED!!!”
Whys that?? to prevent c##k suckers to keep saying those kind of things.
the level of this forum images is very high!!! why isnt the same thing with the comments and oppinions?
there must be a rule that says: NO C##K SUCKING ALLOWED!!!
that kind of complain exist since the very first challenge. i was there and i remember how hard it is to keep seeing god and wow to the stars while ure working like a madman in ur entry. It sucks!!! not to mention useless for the star and for eb else.

well. the problem is there. thats my 0,02
loggie


#5

oh man, talk about a SERIOUS case of sour grapes turned vengeant on us . . .

hehe j/k ofcourse :wink:

you’ve got a point there, bbut the problem is, peeps will ALWAYS reply to threads they know got potential . . . lots of peeps don’t have a lot of free time on their hands [myself included] so the spare post they DO throw in goes to the one that whooooo’s them . . . allas, this also goes for the threads they EXPECT to go skyhigh.

peeps have a case of ooh aah rather than giving crits to the ones that need em most . . .

I just model . . . nothing special, but i have to say altho strikes BoB looks very good, i don’t like it . . . it’s got weird creases that just don’t do it for me . . . and that’s always the case, art is a matter of taste . . .

oh and just for the record, i resent the fact that you think i get replies just because i’m a mod :stuck_out_tongue:


#6

… Well, thanks for the compare between Equinnox model and my own Boromir, but i agree with Equinnox… Even if sometimes i feel a kinda injustice between comments for more people than other, i think people who watch for threads don’t especially have time to look at all challengers.

For myself, i pay my connection because i don’t have DSL or Cable, so i don’t spend alot of time connected, and i’m sure i’m not alone in this case. Plus i have a work who don’t let me time to be always on this site commenting every thread… but when i have free time it’s for modeling and challenging, like a big part of people here, for some it’s studying, for others working.

And the way you compared only four threads is really reducing don’t you think so ? There’s more than 150 entries (i don’t know exactly) so your argument between 4 is too “short” i think…

Maybe you’re a professionnal, and then ? does it give you the right to say : this one is better than this other one ? Bull shit man…

Equinnox : hehe… thanks to say you don’t like my entry… i don’t like yours too… but as you say : art is a matter of taste. And the main thing around here is to love what WE are doing, and having fun ! :slight_smile: So guys keep going on your threads even if nobody’s looking at it… coz you do that for yourself first… and for your own pleasure…


#7

ok equinoxx when i said status i didnt mean moderator.
i mean ure know because u worked hard for it.
cos the same thing goes for matt clark for example…
i thought it was clear.

i agree that u can look a thread with potential. not reply WOW for it.
the PA challenge was hilarious man!!!
pascal had a sketch… A SKETCH!!! great sketch but he got a lot of replies and 5 starts!!!
that must be a joke man!
those guys are wrong!!! what they expect??? an email from pascal saying how greatfull he is???
the “NON WOW REPLY ALLOWED” rule must be on now!
loggie


#8

“NO WOW!!! OMG!!! AWESOME!!!URE A GOD!!! REPLIES ALLOWED!!!”

Amen to that, I was impressed when I first read the rules at spiroliod. Thought it wount suit here…this is a tricky situation for someone who’s not me to sort out.:stuck_out_tongue:

You can please some of the ppl some of the time…(You know the rest)

oh man, talk about a SERIOUS case of sour grapes turned vengeant on us . . .

:stuck_out_tongue: just cause your a mod…ra.ra.ra.ra

j/k myself:surprised


#9

:shrug: I consider myself as an active member of cgtalk.My threads never had a lot of replies(My bob does,for some reason).I think my modelling is good (not great but good).The thing is that i know the only way to start getting more replies is whining…and i don’t like that!:thumbsdow


#10

Well, i’m happy to read people think the same i do… It’s weird nobody have write something about it before, coz i feel alot of people here think they’re not see as they should.

Equinnox : yes that’s the thing i wanted to say, your thread is seen because you’re mod here… It doesn’t mean your work is bad, but you have comments because of your function… As loganarts said, there’s alot of c##k suckers here and it’s sad coz it makes this challenges an impossible way to find the rare piece.

.::STRIKE::.: I understand alot of people can’t comment coz of time of connection, but however some has time to post replies to known challengers… that’s what i wanted to say : People here expect always better work, models, ideas, etc… and they think they’ll find this only trough known people…
I really like your piece and i don’t understand why you’re reaction is like that… Sure you’re right saying it’s for your own you do that, but then why challenging if you’re not hoping to have replies of your work ?

Well… i think there’s alot of suckers here and that’s just i wanted to say… guys, can you tell me what is the main objective you have to comment Moderators, or Pascal Blanché, or Matt Clark ? They don’t care about your comments… It just confirms their supremacy…


#11

hehe loganarts, you replied while i was about to . . . the mod-status thing was cuase of what boromir said, that i get repleis cause i’m well known around this place . . .

i do agree with the NO ooh aah wow thing . . . but how do we enforce such a thing, we can’t go around deleteng or edting every post thta has it in it can we . . .


#12

I have to disagree to some of this topic…I am fairly new here…and I have found that my threads get alot of views and I have had some great responses…I think if you work hard and you have fun…that’s all that really matters here!..everyone here has the potential of becoming a " pascal" or “Wiro” etc…you just have to give it your best and also reply to other peoples posts that you like or dislike and give them advice on how to improve…if your advice is good…people will say hey this guy has some good comments let me see his stuff and then you too will get to know people then you get the posts and views you are looking for…It’s not gonna happen over night…and posting OMG…and WOW…etc… will not get you any respect either unless followed by comments and crits that are substanciated…anyway this is just my 2 cents for what it’s worth!


#13

heyas noxx,
great:)
thats a relief.
well i would suggest that exact thing man!!!
delete wow threads 3 times. the next one the guy is banished till hes 18:) or a grown up:)
im afraid to tell ya but when i first entered here i thought:" wow this is the pro world ive only heard about" now i think this is a red carpet at the oscar ceremony where the starts passes by and the fans cries and scream!!! PASCAL PASCAL!!! please let me kiss ur @SS… thats all…
those guys cant keep doing that…
cos it really sucks!!!
loggie


#14

boromir : hehe… you don’t like my reaction… you’re happy some people think like you… you’re not a kinda fascist by somehow ?..

As i concern, i’m not awaiting for replies like wow, great, awesome, etc… I just need some help about how i could do better a model, scene, this kinda thing… It’s now 7 months i started 3D on Lightwave, and i’m a newbie here… There’s alot (and when i say alot it’s more) of thing i need to learn about CG, and CGTALK is for me a way to learn by having comments of people saying : you should do that, or this, etc… to help upgrading my skills in 3D… I don’t search to win challenges. Sure i will not say the contrary when i finished 6th in the texturing challenge. It was a great honnor for me… But that’s not the reason why i’m participate all CGTALK challenges…

but maybe you’re too egoistic to understand that ?


#15

:shame: Stop getting personal!There where far better artists than enyone in that thread, that left because of this situation…You better start thinking how to make things work better for everyone!


#16

Originally posted by boromir
[B]Equinnox : yes that’s the thing i wanted to say, your thread is seen because you’re mod here… It doesn’t mean your work is bad, but you have comments because of your function…

guys, can you tell me what is the main objective you have to comment Moderators, or Pascal Blanché, or Matt Clark ? They don’t care about your comments… It just confirms their supremacy… [/B]

better watch your mouth ok . . . i started 3d character last september and if there’s ONE thing i care about it’s the comments of people . . . don’t act like you know me, cause you don’t . . . and i do NOT consider myself supreme . . . far from even :stuck_out_tongue:

as for my thread getting views cause i’m a mod, i still resent that . . . people here in general are NOT sucking up . . . they know it does them no good to drewl allover the place . . .
The reason i get views and replies [in my opinion] is because i treat people as my equals regardless of their skills . . . if someone asks for help, i give it to them . . .

so, tone down ok . . . you are the one that’s sounding all high and mighty here.

ok, rant over . . . now let’s all get along :slight_smile:

to strike . . . glad you take it positive what i said. As i said, your model is very good, it’s just not my taste :slight_smile:


#17

Always a pleasure Equinoxx :wink: Same thought for your mesh :slight_smile:


#18

well isn’t it just a fact of life that people with a better reputation get more attention? I mean ever noticed how big the name of actors on dvd and video covers are these days :stuck_out_tongue: A name and his reputation counts, sometimes even more than the work they do or make.

And god this thread goes fast :stuck_out_tongue: When I’m done posting this I’ll probably be on page 3


#19

:beer: for example toxichimp is another example of ‘lost good modeling’


#20

Cgkoko : exact ! the toxichimp mesh is an excellent example too ! :slight_smile:

Equinnox : the mod has talk : Tone down…
I never say you treat the other like shit… Hopefully for a mod you treat them like equal… hopefully… You started 3D since September ? then it conforts my opinion, and you agree with it too. You have posts coz you’re a mod.

But i want to congratulate your skills in a so short time of learning. Like .::Strike::. too … really impressive. Maybe one day your skills will be in concurrence or in work together, so i prefer to stop this talk now before i have a bad feeling about some people here… (isn’t it .::STRIKE::. ? )