Can you get reactor to create soft body dynamics on a Pflow particles?

#11

If you bake out the particles from frame 0 to frame 10 you need to start your reactor sim at frame 9. It will “Eat” the last baked key and replace it with a reactor created key, so hold/saving the scene is a good idea b4 simming.

#12

Interesting idea Jordan :slight_smile:

#13

I dont understand how that would work though. It will only pick up the keyframes from the first 9 frames and then just float down. I need the swaing noisy motion throughout.

#14

I GOT IT!

SIMCLOTH! Thank you simcloth. It lets you use space warps to control the cloth. Working well so far, ill post later on.

#15

Here you go guys, in case anyone is interested. Simcloth saved the day, i forgot what an easy and fast plugin it is. Love it.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1697957

Thanks all for your for your help and im happy to send out a scene if anyone wants it, msg me

Marc

#16

hey, awesome you got it to work. Would it be possible to upload a small preview or something? I’m two max versions behind you :wink:

#17

Excellent, nice work:)

#18

Sure, there is a preview up, but i did it in max2008, so you will need to use that if you want to open it. Ill post the scene as well, hold on.

Its a shame i spent 2 days trying to figure it out with Pflow and Reactor, and in the end managed to do it in 30 mins with simcloth and a few space warps.

There are 3 in total, one general turbulence one, wind speed set to 0. One wind with a falloff on it to push the papers off initially as they needed to look like they were being pushed and finally a drag force that kisks in at frame 40 and slows the x axis speed of the papers so they dont continue and go off screen.

Max scene should be up in ten minsn if anyone is interested in downloading it.

Marc

#19

here you go:

http://www.savefile.com/files/1698398

#20

looks very good man! :slight_smile:
so no pflow use there, right?

#21

Thanks!

No, no Pflow used.

#22

lets not forget bobo´s link objects to particles script!

  [http://www.scriptspot.com/bobo/mxs5/pflow/pflow__MovingObjects.htm](http://www.scriptspot.com/bobo/mxs5/pflow/pflow__MovingObjects.htm)

second screen is the exact same script without using space warps to link…

third one is using the noise geomety deformer and a particle system for falling money…might be interesting for u…the animated force influence gives nice kinda turbulence and irregular forces to them. i would use box3 for such a stunt tho or a script. just right click the force and select “Use Script Wiring” and select influence.

kind regards,
Anselm

#23

Ummm…but these sheets of paper wont bend and flex independantly like my cloth ones do. or am i missing something? i dont think you could ever get a result similar to the one i wanted without using some form of dynamics.

Good script though. Very handy

#24

I hope my question does’nt create controversy here, but how is simcloth diferent than reactor cloth (better/worse, in what terms?)

Also, is simcloth still free (heard it went open souce) and if yes, where can I download it (max9 here)?

Thanks guys, but I was looking for a loooong time for a plugin like that for Max… just couldn’t do it with reactor so this is the reason for my 1º question. :stuck_out_tongue:

#25

Well, animate your paper as u want it to move/behave :slight_smile: the particle system simply links them to the pivot of a particle and transforms it according to the particleTM.

#26

Well, for one thing, i couldnt do what i wanted with reactor. I wanted space warps to affect my cloth and in Reactor, thats not yet possible. With simcloth it was easy as pie. i have always liked simcloth, for one, its free and its very fast and very very easy to use. I dont tend to use it though, unless for special things like this as reactor is also excellent.

But for quick cloth sims and dynamics definately give it a try.

Go to maxplugins.de to download it.

#27

True, but thats still not real dynamics…but definately a worthy alternative.

marc

#28

can I ask why simcloth and not max’s cloth modifier?

#29

Because simcloth lets you assign max spacewarps to the cloth. In this instance i used a few wind and gravity spacewarps to affect the cloth. As far as i can tell, max cloth doesnt allow you to do that…

#30

wait yes you can. Max cloth modifier you can add forces to them by clicking on the ‘force’ button, a dialog box comes up, and you tell it which ones to use.