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#81

[b]lunat1k,

[/b]Really nice studies! I’m thrilled to see Kencho’s demo ~ I think it should really help! :slight_smile:

Kencho,

Forgot to mention, your 2-5-15 studies are looking good! Keep doing those, I think they are the best exercise I can recommend to anyone learning how to draw. :slight_smile: Hmm, I don’t recall seeing examples of your digital paintings here ~ though you are obviously familiar with digital painting from your eye tut. Definitely post! :thumbsup:

Mr. Mu,

I haven’t forgotten about the Gesture bit, but understand that it may take me a while as A) I just finished the CGWorkshop meaning that I have 2 months of cleaning to catch up on this weekend and B) My gesture drawings from my olden school days are at my folks’ house, and I will have to retrieve them in order to take photos of my quite embarrassing school drawings. :wink: But I will be posting stuff intermittently this weekend. In the meantime, I definitely encourage you to partake in the 15 MS using the 2-5-15 method which I think is working well for everyone! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rk

#82

Hi Rebeccak, wow you’re pushing to 6k posts :eek:

this is really awesome stuff, everytime I decide to study anatomy I get distracted by something els but now I’m dead serious, I’ll defenetly participate :thumbsup:

#83

Rebecca, thanks a lot for the support, you’re really helping me a lot. Do you think there is something in particular I should focus my training on? I guess proportions aren’t right, and will try training that for now, what do you think?
About my digital paintings, well, I’ve played a lot with OpenCanvas in the past, and I’m getting used to Photoshop right now :slight_smile: I posted a couple of them in the Sketchathon thread, and will keep posting some soon in some other threads, I guess. You can see my best (that doesn’t mean “good” :P) artworks in my gallery at deviantart http://kencho.deviantart.com/ if you’re curios about it.

Thanks again for the help you’re offering here, I really appreciate it!

#84

Mr. Mu, thanks for the pointers and for reminding me of Linda’s tutorial.
Kencho, thank you for the time you took to make this tutorial. I’ll see what I can pull out of it.
Rebecca, thanks for the reply.

#85

ASSIGNMENT 2: MASTER COPY MINI 2-5-10 SKETCHATHON

For your next assignment, I propose doing a 2-5-10 minute set of drawings from Master Drawings which I will post here. You have 1 WEEK, and post your results here! :slight_smile: Whatever stage you are at is fine ~ if you are just testing your wacom, that is fine.

     What I recommend is the following: [b]for each of the Master Drawing Reference images you choose to work from, do 3 timed poses. [/b]Start from the beginning with each drawing ~ don't build on top of just one drawing, but do 3 SEPARATE drawings.
     
     So, for these Reference Master Drawings:
     
     [b]1. Do a 2 minute drawing from the Master Drawing.[/b]
     
     Capture the ESSENCE. Draw fast. Get down the essential information. Do not draw details at this stage!
     
     [b]2. Do a 5 minute drawing from the [/b][b]Master Drawing.[/b]
 Same deal. Capture the most information you can. Think gesture! 
    
     [b]3. Do a 15 minute drawing from the [/b][b]Master Drawing.[/b]
 Again, the emphasis is on speed! 
     
[b]      Here is a good example of a Gesture Drawing:[/b]

      
      [img]http://www.cwturner.com/portfolio_lg/gesture_girl.jpg[/img]
 
      http://www.cwturner.com/portfolio_lg/gesture_girl.jpg
 
 [b][u]Here are the Master Drawings to be copied in 2-5-10 Minute drawings:[/u]
 
 [img]http://www.artofeurope.com/rubens/rub2.jpg[/img]
 [/b][size=1]http://www.artofeurope.com/rubens/rub2.jpg[/size][size=1]
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    [left] [img]http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/news/ntm4/Images/ntm6-1-1.jpg[/img]
 http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/news/ntm4/Images/ntm6-1-1.jpg
 
 
  [[b]>>>LARGE IMAGE LINK<<<[/b]](http://167.206.67.171/WebImages/FA_Images/hersced/RUBENS.%20LAOOCON.jpg)

[size=2]EDIT: Substituted Image:


[/size] [left] [center][size=1]http://www.aadrawing.com/americanartist/photos/2005/07/0507rubens1_300x450.jpg[/size]

  
  
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[left]          [b]Work in the medium of your choice. 

[/b]         Don't be shy about your efforts! Post your work here ~ we're all here to learn! :)
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        Looking forward to seeing everyone's work! :)
        
        Cheers,
        
        ~Rebeccak
#86

HellBoy,

Hehe, new name for you, I see! :slight_smile: Yep, I’m a poster! :scream: Hope to see your work here soon. :slight_smile:

Kencho,

You’re welcome! I checked out your other thread, and I have to say, I haven’t figured out deviant art yet. I could only see one of your images, a really beautiful pencil piece, but couldn’t find your digital images ~ perhaps you could post them here? :slight_smile:

In terms of what to focus on, I think it’s less a matter of particulars and more a matter of just getting in more practice. I hope that Assignment 2 will be a great exercise for you and the other participants in this thread! :thumbsup:

lunat1k,

Hope you will find Assignments 1 and 2 useful! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#87

Yes, of course. Here they are:


and some from dA:

(Full view: http://www.deviantart.com/view/23656264/)
(Full view: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22055797/)

Thanks for the new assignment, looks interesting and very useful. By the way, 2-5-10 or 2-5-15?

#88

Kencho,

Perfect, that gives me a much stronger sense of where you’re at. :slight_smile:

I would say from looking at your digital pieces is that the main thing you need to work on is value and composition. I think you would really enjoy working in the Open Figure Drawing Workshops, all of which are linked here:

[b]Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More … [links within]
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525
(See Post #3)

[/b]There is some great work being posted in OFDW 008 which I would encourage everyone here to check out.

Also, the main thing I see many of the digital artists on WIP forums needing to work on is ideas and themes. I think that too many digital artists forget to look at the great traditional work of the past, and concentrate too much on the same themes we see over and over again ~ fairies, dragons, castles, monsters, etc. I think that work which is more personal is more interesting.

I would recommend everyone checking out the artists posted to this thread:

[b]Favorite Figurative Artists - Links
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=282224&highlight=Favorite+Artists

[/b]~Ignore the stupid posts. :wink:

And I would also encourage everyone to visit their local art museums, to see the work that has laid the groundwork for all other artists.

It’s not to say that you have to become these artists or even to imitate them, but just remember that what we are striving to do digitally has been done fantastically traditionally. It’s always good to have a sense of perspective on things. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#89

1…2…3…
2/5/15

I swear to god, I can’t stand another babe with sword.

On the other hand, there was an artist who took that cliche and deformed it: his pic showed a very old little hunchbacked hag with a giant sword as she was struggling to pull that dragonhead back home of the dragon she just killed.

That was great - cliches can be fun when approached with irony. I wish I could remember that pic and the artist…

#90

woaahh . . . u guys been drawing a lot heh . . . Hope i still got some time left this weekend to draw :frowning: Work + school is driving me crazy :’(.

Anyway, nice work guys/gals !!

#91

Calvin_C,

Never fear, you can do these exercises at your own pace. I recommend just completing each assignment within the space of one week. That way, things don’t get out of hand in terms of time.

Any Assignment posted here should be done in one week ~ according to your schedule. There is no real deadline for these, so post as you can. That being said, try to be disciplined about posting within the time frame you set for yourself. I know from my own experience that if I have a wavering deadline, I’m less inclined to finish! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#92

Mr. Mu, nice one! :applause:

Calvin_C, thanks :slight_smile:
About the drawings, a good thing of using the 2-5-15 exercise is that you don’t lose more than 25-30 minutes in each drawing (2+5+15 mins, plus some more to be prepared, check the result, check the timer…), so it’s quite fast to do these. And don’t worry if the result is not perfect, as it’s not the focus of these kind of exercises :slight_smile:

Enjoy!

#93

1…2…3…
2/5/15

[img]http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5559/rubens12min6vu.jpg[/img]


[img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5033/rubens15min8ue.jpg[/img]


[img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6195/rubens115min7re.jpg[/img]


    Quote:
                                             Originally Posted by [b]rebeccak[/b]
              [i]I think that too many digital artists forget to look at the great traditional work of the past, and concentrate too much on the same themes we see over and over again ~ fairies, dragons, castles, monsters, etc. I think that work which is more personal is more interesting.[/i]
                             


I swear to god, I can't stand another babe with sword.

On the other hand, there was an artist who took that cliche and deformed it: his pic showed a very old little hunchbacked hag with a giant sword as she was struggling to pull that dragonhead back home of the dragon she just killed.

That was great - cliches can be fun when approached with irony. I wish I could remember that pic and the artist...

Gah!!! sorry Mr. Mu, I didn’t see your earlier post! :eek: Heh, when I see a new post, I always forget that there could have been one before it…I’ll just go stand in the corner. :smiley:

Seriously, this is some nice work!! You’re spot on ~ definitely do more sets of these. I guarantee that if you continue to do these, your ability to see and respond to what you see will improve. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

LOL ~ I would LOVE to see the piece you described. If you find it, post it, and I will be sure to have a hearty guffaw that will brighten my day! :scream:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#94

Here’s another eye from me. It’s scaled to 50% from the original resolution.

Rebecca, I’ll give a try at the assignments, but at the moment I find the pencil & paper combo more handy for gesture drawings. Unfortunately I don’t have a scanner, so I’m going to try with Photoshop. That way I’ll be able to show something.

#95

lunat1k,

Nice! Hey, I completely understand about the scanner thing. Since the main purpose here is for you to improve, I would encourage you to do the traditional drawings intermittently for yourself, as well as the digital drawings, which you will be able to show. Then, assuming you are a student, if you come across a scanner at school or something, you can always scan your work in later.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#96

lunat1k, verrrry nice eye! :applause:

Another sketchathon from me :slight_smile:

I’m afraid I destroyed the lines in the last one because of my shading barrage :frowning:

#97

Kencho,

Great to see! I hope that you will do the remaining poses as well. :thumbsup: You know, the purpose of these is less to worry about individual pieces, than it is to just get the practice. You will naturally get better over time, as I’m sure you realize. :slight_smile:

Looking forward to seeing your next set of drawings! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#98

Rebecca,

Thanks, count with it! Of course I’ll do the next pieces, just that I’m about to go out with friends to take some beer ( :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: hahaha), and as I have some free time before going… I gave a try to the first one :smiley: haha.
And yes, you’re right, I think I’m improving a lot faster. I used to take measures for everything, everytime. Now I just take a glance, try to catch the essence, and the rest of the drawing just follows :smiley: This method is great!! Thanks a lot :love:haha

#99

hey lunat1k: great eye again.

I recommend including the environment of the eye (upper side up to the eyebrow, on the sides til nose plane and beginning temple), because you can use these “regions” of the face to enhance the spherical structure of the eyeball and the eye as a whole…

not that I could do it as good as you, however:D

#100

Hehe, you guys are killing me! :scream: I just noted Mr. Mu’s “Reason for editing: spelling” and I nearly snarfed my soda…I can just hear that patented Mr. Mu sigh of resignation upon discovering a spelling mistake in his post :scream: ~ oh, you guys are great! If I ever bothered to put something in that “Reason for editing” field, it would have to be simply “Korean Blonde moment”. :scream:

Kencho,

Great to hear this method works for you! Yeah, I think the measuring method is good for learning in a very long drawn out way, but if you just want to get in there and start drawing, as I always like to, I say just go for the goods and not worry about tedious details that frankly don’t always make sense as you’re drawing. :wink:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak