B-Movie Entry: Semih Yaman

#121

Your Joe looks great - very nice modeling! :slight_smile:

I hope you don’t mind me leaving a last input about the layout: I think it’s nice and clean now, but colouring is getting rather trashy, matching the B-movie style though. Nonetheless, i wouldn’t go too much for a kitschy look, regarding it’s a graphical contest and people need to like the result, not only from a B-movie point of view. Just my friendly opinion.

I would be also careful with too much text. It’s needed of course on a poster, but again, it’s not a layout contest, it’s more about pictures. Well, it’s difficult to make layout decisions in any case…

Looking forward seeing your updates my friend! :buttrock:

#122

Thank you very much Zoltan, your opinion is always appreciated! :slight_smile:

I agree, too trashy and kitschy isn´t the way too go. The final product should read clearly as a B-movie poster, with some of that funny cheesyness and striking colors, but still be fun to look at and pleasing to the eye, not giving the viewer headaches.

How much text to put there? Hmmm… that´s another good point. Is a tagline needed, have the actors to be mentioned? The text shouldn´t interfere with the other elements but enhance the overall look and add informations that help to understand even better what the movie is all about. So… as lomg as the text doesn´t harm the clearness of the layout it´s probably a matter of personal taste whether to add more or less text.

I will try to improve theese things, so if you like check out the next layout update and let me know what you think about it.

#123

Another version with different coloring and different fonts.

Jack and Chika were repositioned, scaled and even posed in Photoshop so often, they are pretty messed up. I really have to move on, get them ready to render and put the thoughts about composition aside for a while.

I hope when everything is rendered fresh and clean, making layout decisions will be a little easier.

#124

Thanks for the reply :slight_smile: Trying to help, a few more impressions about the newest layout:

  • the side looks rather empty now. i did like your forest before, giving a hint at our nice world, worth to defend against those mean aliens. (why not showing the outlines of the mentioned “small village” there?)
  • don’t like much your red ‘carpet’, the harsh colour is almost painful in the eyes.
  • the letter style for your title is much better now.
  • you could move the spaceships down a bit now from behind the names, having enough space there

And just an idea about the subtitle: i would call it evtl. “invasion” instead of “attack”, if your aliens don’t have weapons.(needing perhaps more spaceships and aliens)

Hope it’s helpful in some way…

Regards

#125

Hey Semih,

Like a lot the new colors on the concept and the text on red, cool typo.
Perhaps you need a bit green lighting over the alien ninjas (like the green lighting reflects over Joe). If the green light como from another source ( not the UFO) then put some mor geen light over Chika and Jack.
Maybe are a some empty space between Jack and the saucer, perhaps you can add in that space a detailed face of the ninja´s chief :smiley: ( here is an example that can be useful: http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-3/star-wars-poster.jpg and I found a cool photo of Chika :smiley: http://xorsyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/starwars-posters-japan-06.jpg :D) Or maybe you can rise Joe and make a bit bigger Jack and Chika.

Like the shadow on the ground for Jack, puts a nice deep in the image, and think that Chika need a shadow too. :slight_smile:

Cool work !! Love that little space zombie ninjas :smiley: Cheers!! :thumbsup:

#126

That poster is looking excellent. I love those little ninja aliens falling out of the sky like that. The only suggestion I can make is to perhaps make the dude with the chainsaw even bigger, so that he becomes even more of a main hero element in the composition. The characters behind him can then shuffle to the sides a bit so we can see them, because they are definitely worth seeing :slight_smile:

This poster is shaping up as a superb depiction of the B-Movie genre. Great work :thumbsup:

#127

The lighting on Jack is now much improved!

One more contribution from me… You’ve got to add an explosion in the back ground. These posters always feature an explosion with a huge fire ball.

Shaping up real good!

Regards
Giom

#128

To be constructive here a quick PO, showing what i mentioned before: PO for Semih
(changing the red light to white at the upper area would reduce the IMO too strong effect of the complementary colours)

Actually there is enough space to make the characters larger, as mentioned before. And also for Giom’s beloved explosion at left :smiley:

Have a nice weekend :slight_smile:

#129

It’s getting there.

Keep going, I’m sure in the end with all the help you’re getting. The final image will look great.

#130

Zoltan >>>

             Showing some reference to planet earth is good, so it´s more obvious what the movie is about: The heroes defending the [b]earth[/b] vs the really really mean and totally evil SZNs. As you see in the versions before with diner and garage in the background, it looked a bit distracting, so I tried the forest silhouette as a more graphical and reduced way and finally tested how the composition works without such an element. 
             
             Haha... yes the red carpet :D... it´s one way to present the characters and make them stand out. Perhaps desaturating and darkening it a little works, perhaps the color will be changed or it will be more transparent and realistic like a volume light, don´t know yet. :shrug:
             
             Moving the spaceship down so the shape can be seen better... I´ll try that! ;)
         
         Haha... thanks a lot...now there are 3 titles to choose from:
               
   [color=Red][b][color=DarkRed]Attack of the Space Zombie Ninjas[/b][/color][/color]  (SZN simply attacking the earth) [b][color=DarkRed]

Revenge of the Space Zombie Ninjas[/color] [/b](SZN taking revenge because they got their asses kicked in the first movie)

         [b]Invasion of the Space Zombie Ninjas[/b] (SZN coming back now with more UFOs and weapons because they realised humans are tougher than they thought in the first two movies). ;)
             
             Thank you very much, I really like what you did in the paintover. Why don´t you like the complementary contrast. It´s a common technique in graphics design and not neccessarily a trashy element, thou as you said before trashy wouldn´t also be that bad for this theme. The way you added the village, is the way it should be done, in a reduced more low-key way. :thumbsup:

Making the characters as large as possible is of course what´s best, there still needs to be a little space on both sides though, I think. Correct proportions will just be a matter of more testing…

Thanks again for all your effort and input, it´s much appreciated!!! :buttrock:
[b]

 Fernando[/b] >>>
             
             Thank you! The green lighting was due to the beam beeing green in the beginning. It´s true, whatever the color of the light is, it should probably be applied to all characters. Adding the giant evil face of the SZNs leader would be good, I just need to find a way to make it work without cluttering the layout. In the reference link you posted it´s done very cleverly and YES, in the other photo you found... it´s her!!! It´s Chika chillin in the park with Darth Vader, as she does every sunday. :D
             
           I´ll try to make to Joe take more space in the compositon and about the shadows, they could be very important in the final, because having some SZNs in the foreground didn´t look good, perhaps it works just having their shadows showing under the title. Shadows are important in any case, without them characters always seem to be floating. 
             
             
             [b]Mark [/b]>>>
             
             Thank you so much! It seems making Joe bigger is the right way as this was mentioned before and I also thought this shoud look better.You´re absolutely right. When developing characters and spending a lot of time on them, they should really be visible in the final artwork.
             
             
             [b]Giom [/b]>>>
             
             Thank you!YES... more destruction more explosions... haha! :D  I´ll see if I can add an explosion in the new versions!
             
             
             [b]Jeff [/b]>>>
           
           Thanks. With all the great help I really don´t have an excuse not finishing this time! :D
#131

haha - i would say, the title depends also on the space you have there (“invasion” might be evtl. too long)

Wishing you a good final spurt!

(got just a “server too busy” message - hope this won’t be posted twice :confused: )

#132

Refining Jacks final pose… also some more wrinkles, structures and textures to add.

#133

Nice looking Jack! Like his shoes, matching greatly the overall style. Also the ligthnings coming out from his prosthesis are well done. The metallic arm could have stronger reflections, looking now almost a bit like aluminium.

Here a simple and generally nicely working example to fake chromium reflections (used when not having enough environment for mirroring): chrome for Semih
Apply the picture to “reflections” of the material, set material colour to black, and gloss quite high (plus evtl. some mirroring). With the colour of the gloss you can control the reflection colour (without changing the gray picture). You can try to add this also onto your chainsaw. But seeing Jack’s sunglasses, i’m sure you won’t need this help with faking reflections. Nonetheless, maybe it’s helpful. :beer:

#134

Hey Semih,

Hahhahaha cool boots and helmet for Jack, simply great!! :smiley: Like a lot the pose !!

Great work and waiting for more! Cheers!! :beer:

#135

Thanks Zoltan, I will work on the reflections and try your map! :beer:
Thanks Fernando, haha… he´s a dead serious looking guy, isn´t he??? :beer:

I´m working on Chika Hayabusa´s final pose now, new update coming really soon!

#136

This is a sword style that has been developed by the Hayabusa Ninja Clan hundreds of years ago. Its called - THE FALCON AWAITING HIS PREY.

Its a totally secret and most deadly style, perhaps even more deadly than - THE KICK OF THE SIAMESE OCTOPUS or THE HEAVY MONK HAD HOT BEAN SOUP!!!

#137

Not sure if she can take the aliens’ minds off fighting with this outfit, but the “Falcon” thing looks very dangerous indeed! :smiley:

Good work! :thumbsup:

#138

Hey Semih,

Really cool pose, like that attacking position, perhaps you need to rotate a bit Chika for look ahead, to the eyes of the viewer oon the final composition.
I think the up skirt looks a bit forced, a bit on manga style ( or hentai). Perhaps the skirt flying just before to show up the panties, or if you want the up skirt, maybe a biker shorts for Chika :slight_smile:

Cool work and waiting more updates. Cheers!! :beer:

#139

Haha… thanks Zoltan, making her look dangerous was very important, as she shouldn´t only look like a girl with 2 swords, but a girl that is also able to use them! :twisted: The line is thin here… as you said, she looked “brav” in the begining (it´s something like "well-behaved"or “lame” in English).

Thanks Fernando… rotating her more towards the viewer could also look good… now it´s like Jack taking care of the left side and she´s taking care of the right side of attacking SZNs.

The Manga look is intended and this upskirt thing a part of it, but you found the exact right word for what still lets me work on it… it looks forced! :sad: The dynamic look of the skirt, coincidentally revealing a bit of her panties, isn´t there yet.

The biker shorts are a good idea, in the beginning she was wearing completely average white panties (like most of the Mangas do), not a thong but she looked like a grandma and that really doesn´t fit the genre at all. :smiley: Hope I can improve it, a bit of a forced look is still ok for the theme, but right now it looks more like the skirt is pulled up with strings…

#140

The pose is very nice, as Ferx mentioned, but the problem is the lack of movement with the body, while the skirt is swinging high, like having a subway station below her.(like Marilyn used to enjoy) Turning her hip slightly could evtl suggest more a sudden movement and you could swing the skirt sidewards, giving more a reason for the up skirt take.

A minor crit about the neck - it seems very thick, resp. it doesn’t seem to meet the head proparly (possibly caused by the strong head rotation).

PS: yeah, “brav” is a very special expression, something like “beige” maybe…