Yeah, guess you’re right. I didn’t want to read anything about it to get most surprise when first seeing it, spoiler free moment, but I finally started to read a bit here and there (Cameron interview from link in last page of this thread ^^), and I’m starting to be really scared about the story line :-/
What scares me most are two things: Cameron stating he wants to get the most possible audience possible, - not like every one do, which I do really respect (and wish I could do better too lol), but in that way he really wants to shoot like he did with titanic, which was not at all his best move AFAIC. Massiv attention from everybody nor “I wanna tell you this story”, which is a very though paradox to assume. That the first economical draw back risk.

Second is that marketing story about panasonic 3D TV article… So he really had to stay focused on the efficiency of this 3D effect nor the story telling?

I might have got it wrong finally. Nothing about technology used in the movie - 3d immersion in a virtual world, like in Fahrenheit 451 or Avalon. Looks more 1st degree story telling. Bah. Can still be an awesome movie. Guess I’ll stop talking and wait and see…

but still.
The movies name is “aAvatar”. So there must be something. I want to believe! ^^


I just skimmed through some 15 pages of replies, and wanted to pick up on the most funny ones. :wink: No offense meant to anyone, just a little giggling.

…soo, it doesn’t look like a game cinematic… but it does look like a game cinematic… because of the colors and art direction?

You’ve heard this kind of nonsense for years, but it’s still ridiculous. Photorealism doesn’t have anything to do with foreign fauna and species. What you’re saying is, as long as what you make is fantasy or sci-fi, any random Jim from the street can work on the lighting and shading, because no-one has seen it before anyway, so photorealism doesn’t matter? And you can get away with any quality character animation of a T-rex, because no-one has seen a living T-rex anyway? Blah.

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no one knows anything about the mines in the movie yet…so we can say therez still nothing shown in the trailer or in the 15 minutes footage…may be they’ll show it in second trailer…


actually avatar is the proof that the level of skills and talent in the cg industry is decreasing. at the time of jurassic park we had great talents that knew how to produce realistic images, today we have a bunch of talentless college graduates who know virtually nothing about lighting, compositing and rendering. and those guys work for the top cg companies: very sad


I really like style and design in this move. Almost as Cameron and Weta did it just for me. :slight_smile:


For all of you that figured out story. Sorry to burst your bubble. Invasion on Pandora was 2 years ago. Game Avatar is about that.


Gotta chime in about the typeface they used for the trailer. Sorry, but a typeface like Papyrus doesn’t belong anywhere NEAR a film of this level of quality and with a budget like this.

It’s just bad design.

Hopefully someone just threw that on the trailer real quick, and it won’t show it’s ugly face in the theatre, when everything is finalized.


To those sniggering at the font of Avatar - it is not Papyrus (sorry to burst your bubble). Granted it does look similar, but then there are thousands of fonts that look similar to the untrained eye.


Isn’t a type face just as good or crap, as the artist who uses it?

Personally i like it.


Jared’s right, you can compare here:


Just enter ‘AVATAR’ and hit ‘try it’ to see.


Who the hell cares it’s not Papyrus, it looks the same and evokes the same feeling of poor design.


Can I get an actual explanation why the font is bad design and does not fit a movie of this caliber? Just because some graphic designers are looking at it from their high horse does not automatically make it a bad design. All I’m reading is “just becuase my opinion is a matter of fact” type answers.


Hence the cliched “modern Western man falls in love with primitive native woman” story. Except this time the native woman is a primitive alien female.

FYI I think the current font is perfect for the impression the film is looking to evoke. I have no gripes with any effects work I’ve seen - WETA will do an amazing job as always. What bothers me is story and design decisions stemming from JC himself.


Simple. because it’s am off the shelf overused font that has been around for years. Even if it isnt exactly the same font, it is very very similar.

It would be like Pixar using Comic Sans for Up.

This is a HUGE budget film and therefore i dont think its unreasonable to expect them to spend a little bit of money on designing a font.

Im just explaining the reason why, im not saying it bothers me THAT much. It does bother me a little though.


If the movie story/aesthetics wise rocks, then they can make a txt with notepad, write the word Avatar and render a print screen on the trailer that I won’t care. (I think we need to relax)


But what if JC thinks it’s already perfect for his needs? Is he supposed to go spend thousands of dollars on some new font just to say “look at me - I have a custom font!”


And imagine Star Wars in times new roman…


I can see where this discussion is going and so will bow out now if you don’t mind…


Well I respect your opinion but it is still just that. Not an actual reason why it is a bad design.


Well then every answer is going to just be opinion. Isnt it? :applause:


A page-long discussion on the title font is proof enough that this thread has run its course.

Closing time.