Apple Discontinues Shake

#21

Really?? from my Shake EULA: " You may, however, make a one-time permanent transfer of all of your license rights to the Apple Software to another party, provided that: (a) the transfer must include all of the Apple Software, including all its component parts, original media, and this License; (b) you do not retain any copies of the Apple Software, full or partial, including copies stored on a computer or other storage device; and © the
party receiving the Apple Software reads and agrees to accept the terms and conditions of this License."

Look for a flood of Cheap Shake Licenses on Ebay
and Craiglist.

and frankly it would not surprise me to see shake become Freeware as part of some Apple promotion soon. either way this mighty useful App will not vanish from the planet any time soon.

Cheers

#22

It is not a real surprise knowing what they said in 2006, but I will never forgive apple of killing such a good product. It is a complete scandal that this kind of things can happen.

wow, its really a shame that they bought shake, discontinued the windows version and then killed it. i remember when i read how they were discontinuing shake, and the first thing i thought was why did they buy it in the first place. like someone said, thank god AD picked up maya and xsi because if it wasn’t doing what apple wanted they would probably axe it too.

#23

Seraca, I see what you are saying, but businesses don’t generally buy software licences off ebay.

Shake disappearing is a big deal, After Effects can do a lot and is not too expensive, however for large complex comps it becomes a nightmare to manage.

There is no real option for businesses other than buying something a lot more expensive for any compositing expansion.
Of course if Shake did become freeware, huge win. In fact if it was freeware and a pre-cursor to a new app that worked in the same way, it would be a fantastic method to expand the user base and hurt the competition.

#24

“So for you shake didn’t need any improvement?”
Where did I say that??

“And no new technologies in image manipulation will ever appear?”
again Where did I say that??

"I can’t understand how you can accept that a software you think is so perfect can be put to death like a rabid dog. "
Never said shake was perfect …oh and a Dead rabid Dog cant expect to be resold…A shake license can.


“This software had a role in the compositing industry,”
Still does sir, my copy hasn’t vanished into thin air

“and was a good foundation that could have been useful for many many years.”
you actually make my point for me about running your current license until all of the major image/video formats evolve into forms old Shake can no longer read many years from now .

“I would have been interested in shake if it had not been discontinued, and the fact that I’m not using it doesn’t matter. I will never use it, I will never be able to buy it,”

Ummmm…Why not?? Used Shake 4.1 licenses are legal to sell.
beside you have access to the mighty Nuke your Future looks peachy how are you harmed be all this?

Cheers

#25

“I see what you are saying, but businesses don’t generally buy software licences off ebay. …There is no real option for businesses other than buying something a lot more expensive for any compositing expansion.”

Well any serious business that sat on the fence for the last TWO years while shake was $499 and the Compositing Community was buzzing about it’s impending “death” will have to get used to the Idea of Shopping for a License on Ebay IMHO.

And any newcomers to any industry always have to live with what is available at the point they enter the industry.
not what used to be sold & supported.

Cheers

#26

they should release the Source Code to the public and maybe Shake can live longer than expected today.

#27

But is it transferable without the need to call or reauth with apple? Because I could imagine a situation where apple no longer supports shake, and so will no longer support moving licenses.

  • Neil
#28

yep it is.

Cheers

#29

Seraca, I think you are missing the point. I am not asking for upgrades or support. Just to keep being able to buy a product that works and uses a good work-flow, for a good price, to do the job many people to use it to do.

Now they have to pay more for something else and anyone unlike yourself who is already set, is out of luck. That sucks.

#30

The only thing I can say is that if you are a freelancer of any kind, grab a copy if you see it in store. For $500 it is extremely powerful and versatile. I do most of my photo editing in Shake now because I hate using PS layers ;p

#31

I think like most here we are feeling abandoned by Apple and their current pro app strategy (if there is one, seems like they are slowly backign away). Now that Apple has found success with consumers they probably feel that pros aren’t necessary anymore, even though it was the professional community that kept them afloat all those year when no one was even looking at Apple. Now that they have the consumer buying their stuff they don’t feel the need to support the community that has supported them.

One can only hope that Apple really does have something in the works. There pro app dev team is probably strained and stretched too thin due to the fact that Apple like to eat their own dog food and any new technology they try to use in their applications the pro apps are usually the best proving grounds for these things, and a fully opencl and grandcentralized compositing application doesn’t sound bad at all. There are other factors as well such as Shake using carbon (I think) and Apple trying very hard to move to Cocoa so that all their apps can take advantage of their new apis.

Logic is a good example. The application got a bit of an upgrade but all they really did was bring Logic’s functionality on par with other DAWs on the market. Some of the plugins in the application haven’t had an update since before they gobbled the application up. Their sampler is in desperate need of an overhaul. The application is still slow and buggy and it won’t support 64 bits until it fully makes the transition to cocoa if it even has any cocoa code in it. The same for FCP (I think) and Shake would have had the same issues as well. So while Logic did get upgraded its almost the are minimum a company can do. The issue is that no one can realy compete with a their prices and the shear amount of features you get for those prices. $499 for what Logic Studio gives you is the best bang for buck package on the market in their category, nothing else comes close, on any platform.

#32

Cool. Good to know. That should give the program a few more years in terms of usage, at least until some OS incompatability happens in the far flung future.

  • Neil
#33

I keep asking adobe for shake like schematic editing inside photoshop as an alternative to the the current 2d layering system. Alas, I don’t think there’s enough people who would use it to make it worth Adobe’s time implementing it. But I’d use the hell out of it.

  • Neil
#34

I’ve said this a few times and gotten flamed…

Apple is a consumer goods company there is really no value for Apple to develop and support pro app’s any more.

Anyway Siggraph is just around the corner lets see what surprises await :wink:

#35

http://www.mapzoneeditor.com/ Is pretty dam cool! More for games but…

#36

In reply to Seraca
The fact that the shake license is transferable is not really the point, I’m going to clarify that because I believe it’s been missed:

Software,
…and especially license-protected software,
…and especially software that uses Quicktime,
…and especially software that uses OpenGL

tend to break with operating systems updates. Therefore, in a few years you may not be able to run the software on a newer machine.

Shake is not exactly a great Mac software to begin with and Apple isn’t going to be doing any hacks in the OS to keep it running

#37

YA but right now I dont have any comp jobs in the pipline that i will render the finals “in a few years”

So Im good for now

but thanks.

Cheers

#38

I’ve been keeping an eye on this one:

http://www.naked.la/light/

for Mac, and a quick search turned up this new one:

http://imageflow.danielsenff.de/imagej/Imageflow.html

#39

free node based compositor

win/linux/mac

#40

“Shake can’t run on an iPhone, so Apple doesn’t need it anymore.”

LOL… that is funny.