Anatomy Thread of Rebecca Kimmel

#841

Recently I have been worrying about how much time I waste posting on cgtalk. Then I looked at your post count Rebecca,… you are beyond salvation:).

Cheerio

#842

hehe! Great huge drawing! Saved it in the rebecca folder :slight_smile:

#843

Hi Rebecca,
thanks for the comment and I have a question [maybe silly but I’m interested in], how much time your art students have to work in home? You know I’m asking about practicing an anatomy and other things on their own, or maybe how much time you are suggesting them.
I know that if you are learning more it’s better, but I’m asking 'cause maybe I have to do a lot more practicing daily. :slight_smile:
I was going 4 months to art atelier in my city and there was a live-model sessions, but when I was learning there, didn’t know much about real observation… I was just drawing without analysing… Now my parents don’t have money and it is unable to go again, it’s frustrating me because I know, that now, I have this skill…

I hope after high school when I go out from Poland, I will realise my dreaming about being professional artist… :slight_smile:

#844

Hey Rebecca! I looove that last drawing of the back, the shading works so well, its very beautiful. Love the texture on the last hand study too. Nice work :slight_smile: Lftm! :wink:

#845

fantastic drawing that last one! I also enjoy looking through your hand studies for the workshop that you’ve posted on the blog! :cool:

#846

Wow very nice work!
your blog is very cool work! I have discover a new continent :applause:

#847

I really like your sketches, better than digital works- must i say… but you got that “something” in your drawings like da Vinci- it’s awesome… + the way you show your works ( i mean the main sketch in the front and enlarge in the background )… I wish to learn in LA someday :wink: i will visiting this thread. Cheers!

#848

Hi folks, long time no update. Thanks for all the comments. :slight_smile: My computer was down for a bit but now is thankfully back. It’s been a busy semester but I was really pleased with how the students in my Irvine Valley College class have done. I’ve posted up a bunch of their work, along with some demos and some examples from other places where I teach, such as ARTLAB / ANDLAB, on my teaching blog:

http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/

Check it out, these guys and gals have been doing some impressive work. I’m relieved the semester is over and I can get some R&R…

#849

[left]This is a completed Burne Hogarth head analysis / copy demo done for my students at ANDLAB / ARTLAB. A pencil sketch was done first before rendering in charcoal. The entire drawing was completed over several sessions as a demo. The full progression of this drawing can be seen in this post. [/left]

#850

Beautifull piece!
That sure is a Hogarth nose:D .

Cheerio Chris

#851

yeah, i just borrowed the book from the library for a week,
and i of course recognize that nose! :slight_smile:

nice work, and cool to see the step by step progress

#852

Nice work with the Hogarth head, (yes it’s unmistakably Hogarth :slight_smile: ) - thanks for showing the progression.

I saw your interview in this month’s ImagineFX - congratulations! Great publicity for the OFDWs too, I personally have gotten a lot out of them.

#853

Kanga, thanks, haha, indeed. :smiley:

BapKe, thank you, I hope the progression is useful. :slight_smile:

ceruleanvii, thanks! It’s been great to have you in the OFDWs, your work is beautiful. I didn’t know the interview had come out, so thanks for the heads up! :slight_smile:

#854

:eek:!! I can’t get over how you handle charcoal!! Masterly, is the least I can say!:buttrock:

#855

:cool:Hey Rebecca!

That’s a really great study- one thing- the ear is a little bit too bright for all of that drawing, but the whole rest is just awesome.

Waiting for more stuff from you. Cheers!

Daniel.

#856

Nice drawing.
Since this is a demo for your class I assume you drew this in the company of your students?
Personally, I think it would be very interesting to see my own art teachers draw, but when I ask, they say they don’t want to interfere in our “process of discovering techniques and possibilities”

How would you react if you got this as an answer from your art teacher? I mean, I think seeing my art teachers draw could speed up this “discovering” for myself. (I have always been someone who is able to adapt to and copy a certain technique when I saw someone else executing the technique in front of me.). I don’t think it would influence my drawings in a very drastic way, certainly not in a negative way…

Eager to hear your point of view.

#857

Hey Anand, thanks. :wink: Appreciate your enthusiasm, haha. :smiley:

   Hey [b]Daniel,[/b] thanks for your feedback. I looked at the original drawing and the ear is a bit light, but the contrast is likely a little amped in the picture (which helps it, probably, heh). Thanks for dropping by. :)
   
   Hey [b]Johan, [/b]I've only recently felt comfortable doing an *entire* drawing, from start to finish, in front of my students. (You can see the setup [here](http://rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/ANDLAB%20Student%20Artwork%20-%20Spring%202008/IMG_6915_ANDLAB-Demo.jpg)). The drawing above was done fully in front of students who were also working from the same or similar reference, though they were working on smaller paper (I basically drew this with my back to them and with them working on their own drawings simultaneously). It was a test for me to see if I could do a drawing completely in the class and not work on it at home. (The [OFDW hand](http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/ofdw-023-hand-10-traditional-wip.html) is a demo I began at home in graphite, but worked on in front of my students in charcoal). This is something that I'm trying to force myself to do more, since for me it was such a valuable part of my learning process back at Art Center. However not all of my teachers did complete demos, and verbal feedback and the occasional paintover was the norm for the majority of my college teachers - this sort of correction I'm really comfortable doing. I would say that Hogarth was the best at demo'ing live and in full, but there were a few other drawing teachers who demo'd well also. Demo'ing is the thing I most want to master, as for me it is the hardest thing to do. I don't feel comfortable yet doing an entire drawing for all of my classes, it just depends on the format - but for all of my classes I do some form of demo'ing. 
   
   Having said that I think demo'ing is important, I think that there is also a lot to be said for independent discovery and trying not to influence students too much. I had a great drawing teacher who rarely showed his own work, even though it was excellent - which was a pity. The key thing if you want a teacher to demo is to ask politely. From my own experience I know that it is far easier to do drawing corrections on the side or overtop of a student's work. For the student this is often better because then the communication is direct. A good teacher should do group demos as well as individual ones, but balance that out with not being overbearing and doing the students' work for them (which is a fine line). I strongly feel that beginners especially just need mileage, and thus I have a hands off approach unless I see that a person is really struggling. There's a time and a place for group demos, and alternately for independent discovery. Hope that helps. :)
#858

Yep it sure does :slight_smile:

I kinda regret that my current teacher never did a demo in our class (he would show us some quick sketches he had made while we were drawing though, those were very helpful for me).

Anyway, I am switching to another teacher as from september… actually I’ve done a couple of life sessions already under his supervision and I think he is quite positive about where I am at after only a good 2.5 years of drawing. (at least I didn’t see him pulling out his hair or slapping his forehead lol)

The class I will attend as from september will be all life drawing sessions among the more experienced students (3rd year students and up). I will carefully observe and perhaps a suited moment will arrive to ask him to do a demo once we got to know and hopefully appreciate eachother…

Thanks for being open about this, well appreciated!

#859

Hey Johan, you’re welcome, and good luck with your new class. :slight_smile:

#860

From the student perspective I would have really appreciated teachers doing full demos. Mine talked through the theory and then spent their drawing time on drawovers in class. Those are great, but it would have really helped me to see something taken from gesture, simple shapes, then (a portion) through to detail. Their method worked for most people (and many of them probably went in with stronger fundamentals than mine), but it could have been better for me. Since the style worked well enough I don’t think there was a lot of reason for them to improve, so it’s good to see you thinking about how you teach. I’m sure you remember all to well, but it’s easy to appreciate those teachers that put effort into becoming better teachers :).