Anatomy Thread of aLoneCuzzo

#37

Haha! Yeah I snagged one.

This is the link to where I bought it on ebay.

It was about 10% of $3,000.00. I know its not as good as a real one, but it’ll be enough to get me on the road. But I saw a real one that was missing the skull and hands going for around $500 or something, can’t remember.

Yeah I checked the freedomofteach site out. My teacher showed their modelling dvd in our class. It was really good, amazing actually. I planned on getting the dvd and that resin model, but every one of those old anatomy books kept saying “get a skeleton”, “draw bones”, it was like I could hear it in my sleep. “CcuUuUuUZzZzOOooo BuuuUUYYY AaAaAAA SkkkeeLLeetTOOooOn”

I thought they went for a few thousand too. But this one looks pretty decent, so I figured I’d start there and then attach the muscles on etc. w/ the resin model and w/ books for reference & learn their names etc.

What do you guys think? thx

#38

Hi…CUZZ…:slight_smile:

If you can find a school where you live, that has an ANATOMICAL DRAWING class…GO FOR IT.
I took a class in anatomy drawing years ago at Otis Parsons Art Institute in L.A…one day a week, for 12 or 16 weeks ,I think…It was well worth it…had a good teacher,…great models, and of
course a skeleton…found out not just the muscles names and placements, but more importantly,…how they funtion, in relation to each other…with the model demonstrating the
actions of the muscles, with each movement the body is capeable of.
I had to drive 70 miles each way,…to get to class, but knew I would have a much better chance of achiveing my goal if I took that class.
Glad to hear you bought a skeleton…will make understanding that much more easier…always helps, when you can touch what you are working with, or from…:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#39

I agree with Spiritdreamer, find yourself an anatomy class. It helps so much to have an instructor who can show you and to whom you can ask questions. If you can build muscles on your skeleton - do it! I’m so jealous… Learn the muscles - their shape, origin, insertion, and fiber direction, and voila! you have their actions. I TA’d for one of the best Kinesiology instructors and she had one really simple, really good rule of thumb for determining muscle actions - muscles get shorter. That’s all they do. That’s all they can do. They bring the origin and insertion closer together. If you know where they attach and their fiber direction you can determine what they do. :slight_smile:

And… touch your skeleton a lot. Move it around. Look at everything closely. It helps so much to have one around. The skeletons in my anatomy classes were my best friend. Oh… and another thing - if you can find a willing participant - draw the muscles on them (with washable markers, of course). Don’t try to learn more than a small group of muscles at a time. Pick, say, the shoulder and learn the muscles there. Make sure you feel familiar with them before you move on. :slight_smile:

#40

Thanks for the words everyone! You’re making me more excited that its coming in the mail!!

I’m in an anatomy class now, but we don’t have a skeleton. Well maybe its moreso a figure drawing class, because we basically just draw from nude models. It’s cool, but I wanted a more rigorous treatment of the body. There’s no skeleton in our class either, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen one in real life so…

Those were really some great suggestions, I’ll get on them once it comes in the mail, thanks again.

#41

Hi, AloneCuzzo

enjoyed looking through your thread. Great work here:thumbsup:

try scanning at a higher dpi range, I scan mine in at 400dpi, might help

Hmmm… there is a grave yard across the street from me… can I borrow a shovel,
LOL, just kidding… about the shovel, I have a couple!

Keep up the good work

Mark

#42

Hey long time no post!

I took my time with this one… Pen again, but I tried scanning it w/ a higher resolution and still a lot of the subtler shadings didn’t come in!! :rolleyes:

Oh well… just gonna post.

#43

2 gestures

#44

aLoneCuzzo,

Lovely drawing of the child, that’s a pleasure to look at. :slight_smile: As well I think the gesture of the leg looks on the right is gorgeous, keep that up!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#45

Hey Jabari,

it’s a pleasure to walk through your thread and see your experiments! Good starts with your painter pics and I especially like your strong pen studies:thumbsup: , even if you lose some details while scanning and I’m definitely curious to see more of them!:slight_smile:

-sabrina

#46

Ok, send some of that magic my way, because you’re definately improving at an amazing pace! That portrait is beautiful! I love the expressiveness of it. :love: You’re lines are getting soooo expressive. :smiley: And, did I mention expressive?

#47

Hi…CUZZ …:bounce: :applause: …:thumbsup: … :slight_smile:

FANTASTIC little ink drawing of that child…REALLY BEAUTIFUL…:applause:
On the leg gesture…make the bottom of the …S…shape or curve…wrap around the outside
or back of the calif muscle…runs from the front upper thigh…hip,…thru the knee,…and over the backside of the calif muscle.

On the subject of classes…ANATOMICAL DRAWING, is the class you are looking for, if you want to really study bone and muscle strcture… their relationship to each other, and their
funtion in creating motion ect…TOTALLY different from a life drawing class, and will make your life drawing classes a real pleasure, because you will have a deeper understanding of what is happening under the surface of the figure, to creat the forms on the surface, for each pose and gesture.
KEEP UP THE …GREAT WORK and PROGRESS…A REAL PLEASURE SEEING BOTH…:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#48

Really lovely work throughout, and definite signs of improvement all round. I really admire people who have the guts to work in ink, something I’ve not picked up the courage to try. And if you’re still wanting to get to grips with painter, I can only suggest giving yourself an hour or two and trying out all the brushes on a blank canvas. It makes such a big difference when you find the right brushes to suit your workflow. Working with ones that don’t suit you can be hellish and somewhat demoralising when it comes to digital painting. Once you’ve mastered those you like you can experiment and branch out.

#49

OMG! I know it’s like 10 days later, but thank you everyone for your comments / insights!!

I was really happy and felt very encouraged!

@Zephyri- Thanks for the insights on painter. I’m going out of town this week for work, so a lot of my off time will be spent in the hotel drawing or probably outside, but I’m definitely going to try your suggestion with the painter brushes.

@SpiritDreamer- Thanks for the comments about the kid’s face!! Yeah, I figured there was something I was missing in terms of the differences of the classes. I had no idea. Haha! *Still waiting on my skeleton to come in the mail. I just got an easel the other day and I’ve been practicing with sanguine.

@Helen-Baq- THAAAANK YOU SO MUCH!! It’s like everytime I compare my work to real life or a master’s work, it feels like you know its lacking so much. But I guess that’s the point, and then when I read your words and look at my old stuff, I can definitely see an improvement. So thank you again!

@daWinky- Thanks! I’m gonna post some pen stuff now even though I was frustrated that day… Haha your words definitely helped because I was thinking about throwing in the towel on scanning pen stuff. Haha! Thanks!

@Rebeccak- Thanks… I’m really trying to get this gesture stuff down before moving onto details and stuff. I really have read and feel like that a good gesture really is the foundation of a well done figure drawing. I saw the email about your class! *excited! Oh yeah, I’m going to be in DC most of the week for work, are there any good drawing spots that you know of? Haha @ ‘any good drawing spots…’ I’m doing a job at the Smithsonian Postal Museum and I think I’m staying at a hotel near there. I’m not sure of the area too well. Thanks again!


#50

Originally posted by aLoneCuzzo: @Rebeccak- Thanks… I’m really trying to get this gesture stuff down before moving onto details and stuff. I really have read and feel like that a good gesture really is the foundation of a well done figure drawing. I saw the email about your class! *excited! Oh yeah, I’m going to be in DC most of the week for work, are there any good drawing spots that you know of? Haha @ ‘any good drawing spots…’ I’m doing a job at the Smithsonian Postal Museum and I think I’m staying at a hotel near there. I’m not sure of the area too well. Thanks again!

Where are you staying? :slight_smile: Of course, any place is good to sketch. Unfortunately my family is in town this week, so I won’t be able to show you around…but the mall area (the gynormous lawn that stretches between the Washington Monument and the Capitol Building) is a great place to sketch ~ always tons of people there, especially since it’s summer! :slight_smile: Glad to hear that you’re excited about the Workshop! That’s really cool! :slight_smile:

There’s a lovely sinewyness (is that a word? :)) to your latest drawings ~ really enjoy the natural sensibility that you have with these. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#51

aww! I’m flattered that you’d actually show me around!

IT IS SO HOT HERE! It hit like 100 today!! I’m staying right near the Capitol building near Union Station. We’re doing some engineering work for the Smithsonian Postal Museum.

Thx for the compliment on the sketches… still tryin to bang it out.

#52

aLoneCuzzo,

Np, I hope you really enjoy DC! Definitely take time to explore the museums if you get the chance ~ in particular, the West Wing of the National Gallery of Art and the Natural History Museum (though the latter is really mostly for kids). The last time I was at the Natl. Gallery, they had an excellent drawing show up ~ definitely try to see if it’s still there! It was on the lower floor of the West Wing:

National Gallery of Art

Master Drawings from the Woodner Collections[left]April 30–November 26, 2006West Building, Central GalleryAlso there is the Hirschorn Sculpture Museum and several other smaller art museums, like the Corcoran Gallery of Art, but the National Gallery is really the best. The West Wing houses Classical Art while the East Wing is devoted to Modern Art. (I hang out in the West Wing when I go). :wink:

I definitely hope you enjoy your stay in DC! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak
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#53

Hey aLoneCuzzo,

just to say fanx for inspiring and encouraging meh.
your work is great and I’ll definetely follow your progress

#54

I’M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

From the dead that is!

Got my skeleton in the mail FINALLY!

I’ve been doing some stuff with sanguine etc. on this big pad I have… Maybe I’ll take soem pictures or something of it… But back to pen stuff…

Wow hadn’t realized how long it had been…

#55

Hi…CUZZ…:slight_smile:

So you finally got your skeleton…:thumbsup:
You might try a little sculpting with it…buy a couple of pounds of that NON DRYING clay, sold in art stores…great stuff…and form the muscles onto the bone of the skull…hand …arm …ect…wrap the bone first with
that clear thin plastc wrap,…the kind you use for wrapping food ect.,…so you don’t stain the bone…SCULPTING MUSCLE onto bone, is a great way to practice anatomy. Muscles will stick in your mind and memory better, when you can feel them, and shape them with your hands…
and those memories from sculpting will show up in your drawings and paintings also.:slight_smile:
Lookiing forward to seeing more of your work… :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#56

I will edit this or repost with more, but I got a aching head, so just a quick comment for now :smiley:

It seems your confidence is growing with all round drawing, try dabbling into colour, you will learn more that way. Check out my theory, hopefully some of it may make some sense.