a moderator please explain to me

#1

Today is the second time that happens to me with an image
and do not understand this message

We are sorry, but your recent art submission to the CGTalk Gallery has been declined
Your submission has been declined for the following reason(s):

  • We’re very sorry to let you know that this work does not yet meet our standards as a completed piece for the Showcase Gallery. We’d like to encourage you to post your work in the WIP forum to develop it further before submitting it again.
    ** PLEASE NOTE ** This is the second time you are receiving this message. Flipping the image horizontally does not qualify as improving the image. Please do not ignore this message again

thi is the image

#2

if some moderator can give me an explanation that this image can not be posted in the gallery, I appreciate.
is published elsewhere and are having good reviews. It is the second time I spent with you, I would also like people to comment me if you understand my anger or it is an image so horrific that does not deserve to be in the gallery of completed jobs

#3

I ain’t no photo realistic expert, but here’s my 2 cents:

-Skin doesnt have much tone to it, too much white all over, realistic skin would have different tone depending on what is under the flesh, cartilage, bone and veins showing through all affect the tone of the surface.
-Possibly stretching on the neck texture, blurry jawline looks like badly compressed jpeg
-There’s probably a scale issue with the width of his shoulders (in relation to scale of the head)…he’s wearing armor and yet they feel tiny?
-The ear and nose anatomy need improvement
-Strange dark shading on side of the nose, skin shadows are never black

#4

What you think that is so horrible that it can not be posted in the gallery of work completed?

There are things in your criticism with which I agree, but do not think my model exceeds the quality standard.
Of course I do not expect to win awards CGTalk, but not publish it there I think is unfair, plus is the second time it happens.
anyway thanks for posting in my thread, I think as this situation continues I will retire Forum

#5

If your outlook is to quit if the moderators don’t allow your work into what is supposed to be the best of CGSociety, then perhaps your chasing the wrong goal?

I know how you feel, when you’re working on a project you’re on top of the world, you feel its your best yet and your oblivious to the errors. Just like a sketch/painting, its not until you have someone uninvolved look at it, or at the least you take some time away from it and then return to it and rip it apart that you’ll see where things are weak and need improving.

At a glance, the image looks fine. Though upon closer inspection, as Psyk0 said, there are things which are quite important that do need rectifying before it can be placed in the ‘completed’ gallery.

Fix the skin and give him some shoulders and I’m sure it’ll make the cut. If you can see errors and agree with Psyk0, you shouldn’t be trying to get it into the gallery simply because you think there are works there which yours is better than. Give it your all, and dump all you can into it until you can’t stand to look at the thing anymore : P

#6

Really good as my start date for the forum, I posted many pictures, many of them worse or better after. the question is that my last two pictures, also followed did not come into the gallery for the same reason, may be a coincidence. Maybe I see my job better than it really is, I there are things to criticize I’m not agree … and the anatomical proportions of the model, more than anything that the body is entirely modeled below … but I will not go into that subject.
maybe you see a illogical anger, but believe me I’m not angry, I just want to tell me some moderator that does not reach the standard of quality, also wanted to know if colleagues are just the decision of the moderators, apparently if you see fair, so only can upload images or antropus Stamberg, and have chosen the gallery … and the gallery itself is.
If a previous selection of the gallery at the end only see what the moderator wants, I’m not saying that is my case but may lose interest or special images just because someone believes that there is “required minimum quality.”
I have many years years in this job in the gaming industry and I personally feel the last month or so censored in the forum.

In short I see the two guys that you see comentais fair, so I think next time I will think about the upload pictures, to criticize colleagues in this forum, I think the brown will not be great, and when this post is lost cro to lose my contribution is here.

luckily, no forum is the latest 3D network

#7

as you will see this is the last image of very poor quality that I could not get on the board of completed jobs.
now tell me they do not deserve to be there and you throw in the towel as in boxing

is a pawn

#8

Hi, I’m not an expert, but maybe you should read answers in this thread:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=31&t=952884

I know it’s from 2D section, but I believe it pretty much explains the reasons why your last 2 images weren’t approved.

From my point of view, the last one isn’t bad (well, maybe those textures look a bit flat) but the cruel truth is, it’s nothing special.

Also, (and this may sound a bit harsh to you, but don’t get offended) the reason why your latest images weren’t “good enough” for the gallery, may be because from what I’ve seen over the years I’m following this site, the quality of uploaded images improved a lot.

Just don’t take it personally or let it get you down.

#9

I agree. You have to remember that every time a piece get’s in it raises the bar ever so lightly.

This piece could had easily been posted in the WIP first and you would have gotten the comments your getting now but before the rejection.

I also agree with MrJuzah. You just have to keep at it. Post in the WIP section all the time. And by no mean’s is this a bad piece, it just needs a bit more work.

#10

I’ve decided not to publish any picture here, so when this thread ends end my participation in CGTalk.
Such images that are in the forum if you have been published (the record that I think must be like mine)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=947982
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=955326
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=954440
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=953774
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=951593
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=949430
All these pictures are after that I try to publish in January

#11

I think another thing they are getting tired of is a complex model put in a simple background. I created a bike and had a white background behind it. It got rejected, because the background felt like an after thought. I went back, and put it in a slightly nicer scene and it got in.

I’m sorry to hear that you will not be returning. But I wouldn’t base my leaving or opinions on getting accepted or not accepted. The forum shouldn’t really be about that. It should be about community and the type of crits, feedback and words you get from your peers. Don’t let one reviewer put a bad taste in your mouth, rather remember the forum as a whole and what you can get out of it.

#12

my friend, the problem is more serious than it looks, I received the message in private a couple of colleagues that his images are not allowed, the more hurtful is that one of them is in the ******* gallery selected.
I’m not one to say that people are who are they who sponge if you want but it happens that all are Spanish so that gives me the impression that he is the moderator of my country who like a censor (hunting Witches of the Roosevelt administration).
Are forgetting is that if this forum is important is for us and not the other way
a hug mate, stating that I never annoyed by a bad review or criticism that is clearly very hard, I’ve never been offended by any partner … and I’m sad that this happening at a forum in which I have since 2003

#13

Im sorry to be blunt, but the links you’ve provided - They are clearly finished works, and by default have far more right to be in the gallery than yours. The fact that you’ve thrown a tantrum, and then insulted 5 others by quoting their work as being worse than your own is just bad form.

Think you need to take a few days away from the subject, reflect on how your handling it and reapproach it.

#14

I do not know what I mean. this work should be there like mine, I did not insult anyone, put examples of work that are similar to mine.
Quie are you (do not take it personally) to decide when a work is finished, that is a decision of the artist.
of anyone else.
But I did not insult anyone … anyway I think my time is up so tomorrow morning will ask the administrators to give me low.
Hope you like being in a forum like this

#15

So you have decided to quit a professional and (most of the time) helpful community because your ego was bruised by having your work rejected? I can’t see how this is beneficial to you.

Instead of humbly asking how you can improve your work, you went on to rant “My work is just as good as others! You rejected my work because you hate spaniards!”. You are not going to learn anything with that attitude.

But anyway, goodbye.

#16

makaka,

If you ever get a reply from the Admins Im curious what their answer is, could you let me know? Because my scene was also declined with the reason of it not being finished. My scene has no relation to yours (architectural/interior) yet it didn’t pass. Maybe one of you could explain why mine wouldn’t pass either?
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=43&t=955505

#17

Normally I would be with you on this, but in Makaka’s piece the background in indeed fairly simple, yet appropriate to the scene. and not significantly “lower” in quality. This one is certainly worth a position in the gallery, because I’ve seen much worse come by there in the years that I’ve been here.

@Makaka: Choosing other peoples work and publically saying it is worse than yours is just not done. If you think it, fine, but keep it to yourself. Also, noone is stopping your work from being published because you are Spanish, don’t be daft.

Cobra 6

#18

Just my 2¢ apropos “getting tired of this or that” - if that’s the case whoever is doing the submission reviews should review their own attitude. Just because something is done to death doesn’t mean that every artistic expression in that field is somehow not worthy.

Every work of art is unique and should be reviewed as such, independent of any external circumstances such as whether a gazillion other artists have done their variations on the theme.

As for the pieces OP posted, I find them interesting, with well done lifelike expressions which are often lacking in CGI characters. There are some texture issues, the most obvious being aliasing on the emperor’s chest plate, also resolution issues on the neck and jawline.

#19

funny how some people dont get it. CG-talk has some of the worlds best artist posting work in that forum part. That automatically makes it harder for the rest to be posted in the thread next to it. this is what happens when stuff keeps getting more awesome!
Take it as a great example of what the standard is of finished work (as that is the standard on this forum) and reevaluate your own work. dont hate on others and keep trying! :wink:

#20

When a work is labeled as unfinished, they mean there is still significant room to push the work further - it may be that the work is of low level, which in this case wouldn’t be true. In this scenario its simply the modeling is good, though other components could easily be refined to make it outstanding.

You need to stay positive, taking criticism is the hardest part of being an artist. Anybody can wield a pencil/graphics tab and make a work of art with enough time spent on it…only an artist can have a pile of crap dumped on his work and just brush it off and still love his creation.