80's cartoon Post Mortem: Tell us what you learned...

#21

Oi, must be a lot of new guys, this comes up every challenge. Until Roberto gets the thread ready for posting you are usually free to update until then. Considering there are so many entries I wonder when the vote thread will actually go up.

#22

Actualy i do work in a studio and i know and i care about deadlines. But this is just for personal growing, and if i didnt finish for the challenge i just dont mind at all, because i can finish it later, no one cares, and i did finished more than 1 competition before deadlines. Anyway, im happy about what i learned from this challenge, so im ok with myself.

im not trying to prove im profesional, i leave that for my profesion actualy:D .

#23

i think the 1 face 12 expressions is an awesome idea, opens up room for a lot more creativity than the human body cutaway one… plus it will allow people to practice modelling for animation and getting the facial topology right and all that jazz…so yeh i’d say the face idea is the better of the two…

#24

Is there a reason you feel the need to belittle people who do not work professionally? Because that is what you are doing. You’ve insinuated that you are a better person than others because you work in a studio and you met the deadline. Some of us are amateurs and enter these challenges for the pure love of modeling. It’s a loose forum that houses a really strong supportive community which gives constructive feedback no matter the experience of the entrant. If you’re in it to try and prove to others that you’re better, I think you’ve missed the point. For myself, A HUGE part of participating is watching how people grow in their skills from challenge to challenge, and feeling like I’ve become better and/or more efficient in my workflow from practice and observing others.

-Rage

PS: I congratulate you for having met the deadline.

#25

couldn’t have said it better myself. Since Roberto brought it up earlier I’ve been really hoping he’d lean towards that.

#26

Its not somuch a deadline, more of a guidline. Well it worked in POTC :slight_smile:

I dont think its a huge deal, or cheating, it makes for a more interesting challenge because more entrants will be in the runnings.
I actually finished in time, but never bothered posting it, to busy with my other entry, which I could have finished on time too, but its not somthing to get annoyed by. I worked hard, most people did, but rl get in the way, regardless. So just go with it, no prizes are at stake and its all freindly stuff on here. In my first entry I was kinda of the same mind, but thats not what this is about. Its an exercise.

#27

Rage, I dont think you understood the post. He was not belittling anyone for their job or lack of. He was pointing out that, casual or no, a deadline was set and, having worked in a studio environment (something many of us want to do/already do), that deadlines are usually something you try and stick to hence the name ‘deadline’.

I know its easy to misunderstand typed words so hopefully that helps you understand his view. Also, having stayed up and busted butt to meet the deadline, it tends to rub a little wrong, especially with only a few hours sleep because of trying to finish on time.

think of it as venting, not a personal jab at you or anyone else.

#28

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying; and it is true that it is very easy to misinterpret conversation on a screen without tone, inflection, and body language to contribute. My apologies.

-Rage

#29

Just think of it as the client pushing the meeting back a few days and, by the luck of the fates you have a couple extra days to make it THAT MUCH SWEETER. If you were done on time you can sit back and relax, if you still have more work to do, well you now have time to pump out a sweet model! :buttrock:

#30

no worries, its all about making ourselves better and enjoying it! I just happen to be friends with him and know the efforts he made to complete this on time.

#31

Lol that’s what I figured when I saw you were both from St-Louis.

#32

I’d vote Human Cutaway :smiley:

Cheersy!

#33

Man, what a ruckus! lol

      As Wyatt remarked, a lot of people seem to be new to a challenge such as this one and appear to be taking it a bit too serious. Professional in the field or not, we all have lives and responsibilities beyond this little, completely meaningless game here. This is no serious competition and no job, period! Nothing is at stake and there's no loot to get at! There's absolutely no need for indirectly elbowing other people here.  Doing so only reflects badly on the one doing so. This is supposed to be fun and just fun alone, so chill out everybody and hang loose!
     
     What's a few more days on the deadline anyways?! I for my part am very happy about it each time Roberto makes a thread or individual post like this one at the end of each mini-challenge. There's always room for improvement, regardless of anybody's level of proficiency. Regardless of how hard we work to meet a deadline, I feel everybody in their right mind should be grateful for the opportunity to tweak some more and be happy for everybody else who can make it across the finish line. :) 
    
      To give you guys some other food for thought, just think about how utterly flawed the whole thing is to begin with, just merely by being peer- and general cg-public-voted! ;)
      
      Anyways, the question that's really burning on my mind, is:  What time Friday do we absolutely need to have posted by?
      
      Cheers!
#34

yes, thats right. This all is only for fun and training our experience and skill, so why not move deadline to Friday. Many good works here are not done yet and most want to see final result :slight_smile:

peace and good luck for all what else do for yours final entry:beer:

#35

well … i never got finished and would resent being called lazy, or of being unable to meet deadlines.
I’ve met every deadline set for these challenges, except this one. personal circumstances and real life got in the way.
I’m a recently separated father with three kids, and still finished the last one, but due to the Easter school holidays and my desire to spend time with my kids, didn’t get this one done.

I dont know your personal circumstances (just as you dont know mine) but just 'cos you are a “professional” and work 40hrs and got it done (for all i know you had hours to yourself every evening to work on it) doesnt make us lazy.

If this was a competition (prizes, trophies, global fame) then yes, maybe you have a point. (although the recent big Steampunk challenge also had an extention due to technical problems, and that did have big prizes)

To be honest though 3D work is rarely “finished” so im sure even you could use the extra time to tweak,adjust,re render etc …

at the end of the day this is and always has been a fun challenge with active constructive criticism with the sole aim of helping people improve their modelling skills.
Anyone in it for the “fame” has come to the wrong place …

#36

The good nature of the participants in this forum never ceases to amaze me (*looks up) and you guys have had a huge impact on my modeling since I started paying attention to these challenges. For the first 4 or 5 challenges all I did was read the posts and throw an odd comment here and there when I felt it was my place to do so. Even doing only that, and not actually participating, It was a big help. Being able to have near real-time exposure to so many different workflows is priceless IMO. After seeing the nature of the challenge forum and the community it houses I realized that I didn’t have to be god’s gift to CG to enter, and that many people do not, can not, or don’t care to finish their entries. This will be, for me, the first of the 3 challenges I’ve participated in that I will be able to post a final result, and that is due to the extended deadline. I still would have posted late, even if it meant non-eligibility for voting. Let’s face it, there’s no judges panel, and a lot of the votes come from friends, can be based on the integration of textures to the finished piece, etc. Basically, the votes don’t really mean that much anyway, although they are a nice touch.

That being said, because of the reasons listed above, it is also a shock when someone posts a negative comment, because we’re just not used to it, and perhaps some of us (*points at self) get defensive as a natural reaction due to this.

-Rage

#37

I am really ok on the deadline being now on Friday. I just cant quite franquly see the convenience personally as im not going to be able to do anything … but im ok on moving the deadline.

I know that many of you did work hard even didnt sleep as to finish the work on time but this challenge as many others are just excuses to start something and maybe sticking with it untill its almost done or fully complete.

Sincerelly
Leandro

#38

yeh its a good little community here in the hardcore modeling section…its actually the only place i really visit on cgtalk anymore…

its getting to be really good because the same guys take part in the challenges regularly and we all get an appreciation for each others work and some guys get some notoriety amongst the group for being awesome…or crazy…lol…

i’ve been here since about the 7th challenge i think (whichever the 30 models, 30 days one was), and our next is the 20th…which is awesome…i can’t wait for the 50th one…

on the subject of deadlines…we pretty much always go over…the date is usually ‘the end of that week’ and at the end of the day there’s no prize so no one can really be ‘cheating’

#39

If your boss gives you extension, your expression should be…

Oh okay, that wasn’t really helpful :smiley: But the wind has to change, so, next challenge?

#40

i want it to be

1 Face- 12 Expressions

already know exactly who my model is going to be for the face for my entry…