5 Blades

#161

some sweet historical differences, like picking a time period where the ninja were the most famous and most known and making the story that they were new and mysterious…makes sense.

difference of opinion is a good excuse to fudge the dates…

thats like saying well yeah it is more probable that it happened this way, but because i believe otherwise we’ll go with my idea,

im only doing my job you took me on as history advisor and story checker, just letting u know continuity is ****ed.

edit:aww i can’t believe the bleeped the eff word…oh well it has more dramatic effect this way.

#162

Ok, the best way to put this, is that the date its set at isnt because I just decided, oooh lets make it 1540… there are “continuity” reasons why its that date… we could slide the date to earlier, but that defeats the story purposes. In the story Hanso has to die, Suki has to live to tell the tale and it happens before the edo period… that is very important…

The ninja, what matters is that the Dark path are mysterious, not ninja themselves…

And we value your advice, but at times need you to help us find ways around historical facts to aid the holes we are fully aware of in the storytelling…

Cliff…

#163

gunslingerblack, man you gotta lighten up, this is just an animation, nothing should be written in stone, having said that it is useful to have you around…
But you gotta give us some leeway to creat cool stuff, or else it would just be another Zatoichi… I personally would love to go in a direction more like the guy who done Mangnacarta for SoftMax… Hyung-Tae Kim. I also saw a film called Legend of the Sacred Stone and I think cliff is going for a hyper real version of this without all the wire fu, and crappy dialouge…

My thoughts are to make suki’s clothes more chinese looking, and maybey give her short blonde hair… somthing cool…
I know these things were not done in those days, but like it says in Samurai Champloo… cut the crap and just watch…

#164

I have kinda come to the conclusion, that apart from character designs, and prototype concepts, when it comes to weapons It would probably be better to work from referances, with me helping out on the decorative details…

for Suki’s sword… I have done some sketches, which Ill post later.
but this it the type of sword I thin would work… I want one edge to be flattened like its is not 2 sided, I have manipulated it in photoshop…

#165

I am not sure if this is good enough so please feel free to add changes you want to see. Also the brige right now is straight but it will be arched later.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/davidarnold129/wooden_bridge.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/davidarnold129/wooden_bridge_2.jpg

I stuck with a basic design but if you want something fancy then sure but I will need someone to do some concept drawing cause I not sure wut would look best sorry but I am trying.

#166

thats great Deathstar, now if you can put a bend modifiyer on it to arch it it would be cool…

Welcome aboard…
Deathstar is Assistant Enviroment Modeler…

Cliff

#167

hi everyone, I just recently came acorss this thread, frankly it interests me

I would like to know if this group is still looking otu for a concept artist or visualizers? it’s pretty much my main interest now.

chracter design, wee bit of environmental design and some minor perspective but I’m not strong in it yet. if there’s by any chance that I could join this collaborative project, i would be more than happy to show you some of my personal work to see if it meets your standards.

was wondering, if anyone has a draft copy of the story and script?

look forward to a reply

#168

it’s just an animation sure, but its turning into your cliche ninja flick, im just tired of seeing ninja represented in such a way in 99 percent of dramatic representation. lightening up has nothing to do with it, the fact of the matter is im just passionate about the subject. i take no offense to anything that’s going on but my suggestions are only those to make the story stronger and unfortunately they conflict with the creators vision.

the depth of story is alittle thin, even tho it’s a short film, you want all the pieces to add up. especially in a one shot piece like this. you want everything to conclude and make sense. the ninja can get away sure that’s fine, hanzo can get shot and die that’s cool as well (although i would have him get shot in the stomach as it’s much more fatal than a leg wound) putting suki on a cool horse with a unique sword without any sort of substantiation that a woman in ancient japan could actually survive on her own without becoming a prostitute is hard to accept. showing a flashback to hanzo’s past that im sure alludes to how he became a wanted man is good but, the flashback concludes and in the version of the script i read you never find out what his crime was, so the flashback seems to be out of place, i would include a reference to this in the flashback even if it’s an audio as the flashback fades back into reality of hanzo goin nuts and murdering the heads of the clan give the act some motivation. because the knowledge of guns in ancient japan is debatable and the common man wouldn’t know alot about this sort of thing i will concede that you can get away with that inclusion in the short. the fact that you are willing to agree that it’s a flintlock pistol is also alot more believable than the “top secret long barrell scatter gun” proposed in the earlier concepts of the show.(look up samurai gun for the cheeziness factor on that idea)

in short

a whole bunch of “cool concepts” gathered together doesnt make a story great,…
background and character depth makes a story great.

this concludes my critique of the story

#169

Here’s a rough concept sketch of Suki in battle dress (the sword is not in scale with the character)…

I’ve included some details for her sword which has a straight not curved blade and a tassle on the handle.

She is to be dressed predominantly in white and wears a cape.

Also note the protective leg gear (top right).

#170

Re: CipherL.

LBR has final word with Suki’s design, but here are some requests from the script writing department… :smiley:

  • I’m cool with the predominant white, but can you contrast it with a secondary black?

  • I like the Royal look of the costume and armour, but could you make it look like she has been in some violent fights? A few rips and tatters here and there? The idea is to present a character that at one point had it all( power and glory ) but threw it all away to pursue vengence blablabla… :wink:

…other than that - you’ve hit the nail on the head! :thumbsup:

#171

I like the last sketch… :slight_smile: just wanted to say that…
And I think someone have thought about why im not so active right know…
thats cause I have a “project” in school for 2 weeks more… So I dont be “hyper-active”
the coming 2-3 weeks… Sorry to tell this… but i have to do home work. :frowning:

#172

I have a bit of free time each day. Is there anything else I can try and make?

#173

The bridge is bent wut should i do with the files?

#174

Hey are you guys still active? Why nobody posting?

#175

yeah, of course were still active, post the renders of the bridge… we want you to make a couple of versions, (Level Of Detail) Lods… basically a low poly version, around the level you have been working at, a mid poly version, and a High Poly version which will be textured with displacement maps…

Dennatos, do you think you could work on the eagle, or should we take what you have done and let another modeler work on it, I have a couple of people who would like to have a go on it…

Deigo, how you coming along with suki.

Well the design for Suki’s Chinese blade is open to discussion, I personnaly think it should be ivory with jade embellesihments…

#176

I have spoken to Boone concering most of the issues you raised, about 2 weeks ago…

We met in London… The Shot that kills Hanso should be to the upper body, Suki has been taught by Hanso to protect herself… the first “Fight” is actually training. The background of the “Murder” should me alluded to through a voice over from Suki, and voice flashbacks should explain the meeting at the bridge…
I also think that Suki would have joined a clan herself as a female warrior, yes there were female samurai, they even have a named class… Anyway she leaves japan to go into hiding, at the same time that Hanzo joins the monks… So we can have her travel through China…

#177

Re: Littlebluerobots.

Okay, I’ll keep that in mind for the 3rd draft.

Speaking of which…

Re: Biz07.

FRONT AND CENTER! :scream:

Once the 3rd draft is done - its over to you for a final check. After that, we shall produce the final( as in stone ) draft of 5 Blades… :bounce:

#178

DeigoFloor, I was wondering if you need any more help with young Suki?, if you post up any update renders, I can outline changes, or do a Photoshop liquify alteration to let you know what direction we need to go it…

Its got abit quiet on here lately, Im just wondering where the moddeling has got too?..

#179

I shall produce the 3rd draft tommorow night( uploaded at 6:00pm ).

Unfortunately, Gunslingerblack has had to bow out due to the possibility of a job oppertunity. We wish them all the best.

Despite this set back, I shall do my best with the 3rd Draft and hand it in on the deadline.

Thank you all. :beer:

#180

Yeah, we hope Gunslinger gets the gig, and thanks for all your help mate…

Ok I need to have a report on whats happening… Dennatos, DeigoFloor, CipherL and Deathstar…

We should have a prototype gun design, an update on suki and a model sword and a render of the Bridge as it stands…
Come on guys, it getting too quiet on here… :smiley:

As always were on the look out for more artists

Cliff.