147 demo reels thrown away!!


At least we do not have to worry about CG loving us in return or leaving us for another.


That was an awesome short article.

Thanks… I am going to keep it and make sure my demo reel has none of those.


i would be surprised if many ‘generalists’ make it past the first round of dev on next gen platforms…production is just becomingtoo large and specialized to allow someone to have the bandwidth to handle every single asset…

i just got done reviewing some folios this weekend, and too many of the students were trying to be masters of it all while never grasping one…

it is great to know the thory and practices behind every discipline, but focus your work on 1 or 2 aspects…you just dont have the bandwidth early in your career to handle it all…if you want to model focus on that and texturing…if you want to animate, focus on performance and learn the principles of rigging on the side…

don’t spread yourself to thin, because we can see through that charade everytime.


Thats what I need to hear every now again as a solid reminder.


Ya its right,

Most of the institutions in developing contries like india are concentrating on money.Their main aim is to complete the software not the Art subject.I hope these will replace with upcoming art schools.


Wow, am I happy that I went to a “submission and interview only” school. It seems that it helped prepare me for the hardships ahead.:slight_smile:

Anyway, here´s my 2 cent on ow to apply:

Honesty, dignity, discipline

That´s all, really.

Honesty: Tell them in a professional style who you are, what you want, why you get that job. No blabla and dumb jokes, just the bare facts. And don´t show off other people´s work. Nothin more embarassing then having to hear “Oh yeah, that´s a nice tutorial, been through that one last week” in an interview.

Dignity: No lens flares, no flashy stuff, no flickering GI, just work, that show you are skilled in the craft and that you are good at it! The pro´s will determine the blenders from those who can “make it happen”.

Discipline: No sleazy, halfprepared scenes, just your creme. Even if it means you´ll need to re-edit your reel for every submission. When I searched for my current job, I sent out 5!!! application. I checked out the companies, gathered information, created a reel of stuff the companies wanted to see and sent each and every one an individual reel. Combine that with a clean cover letter and a CV (I´ve seen so many submissions with spelling errors I can´t cont them) and you can save yourself (and the HR people) a lot of time and work.



you’re fired!


Did you mean hired or fired?:rolleyes:


When I started reading the piece I thought WTF lots of people who are great at modelling. texturing, animation, lighting, rigging are piss poor at making reels, but it wasn’t about that at all. It was about content. That was one damn usefull rave. Lots of members here should get down on their knees and thank the chap for taking the time to write that!

Very good reading thanx!


I Compleatly agree, the simple fact is when these people offer positions they want to see talanted people, they WANT every reel to be great. in a sense they want your to do well. what employer wouldnt, having a talanted artist on the team will help improve ideas and the general look of the shots there hiring you for.

so if it gets chucked, you shouldnt have gave them a reason to do so.


I agree with Bacon. Look when people are viewing your portfolio reel they judge it simply by the substance and content in it. If the work is good, you’ll be much more likely to land the job, if it’s not good then you’re canned. I fail to see how certain people don’t understand this.

However, how much of an impact do you think making the right contact makes when looking for that job? To me it pretty much landed me the job I have now. Granted I had other opportunities to take and others in which had potential, but it was the one contact who helped me secure and land the dream job I had worked my ass off.

But don’t get me wrong, all the contacts in the world won’t help you out if your portfolio is lacking, because having a strong portfolio should be most important, it’s also the ol game of “who you know” that also plays a big role as to what job opportunities you do get. Because those awesome kick ass jobs we all look to land and begin working for, they probably won’t be posted on sites like monster.com. It’s been from my experience a word-of-mouth thing.


Yep, what dividebyzero said sums it up perfectly. I usually like to say that its 10% teachers, and 90% pure gruelling hard work. The instructors are there to push you in the right direction but you’re the one who has to haul your own butt.

in my experience, many new students are just too “fresh” and havent been exposed to what the cg community is like. What I’d like to see more from instructors is to show their students how to be self-relient. theres hundreds of resources out there to help people with ambitions to be in this industry, but half of them either dont care, or dont even know these resources exist.

In my opinion, the technical aspects of cg arent taught quickly enough. If students cant pick up the techniques and tools quickly then they find it very difficult to improve. What good is the art, if you dont know the medium?

just my humble opinion…


just so I understand your saying that the art isnt as important as been a artist,

I was trying to explaine to a collage student who wanted to learn animation at university (this is WAY after I graduated with a animation degree). he kept saying he just wanted to use the computer, and didnt understand why having a solidn art background was so important.

I just said.

just cos you can use a pen doesnt mean you could write a best selling book, the ability to use the tool is there but without the art to back up the work it wont realy go anyware.


hmm, perhaps i should have elaborated a bit more clearly. I by no means believe that art is less important than the technical things. its much more important…
which is why I also said that the technical things should be taught more quickly, so that they become instinct, rather than a burden. when a person with a passion for art suddenly throws themselves into a digital medium, they struggle mostly with the tools, which makes the art much more difficult.

from my limited experience, I saw students with excellent artistic skills and awesome ideas, but they couldnt interpret what they envisioned into 3d because they didnt understand the software.


Really? Cause I seem to see alot of “better to be a master at one than good at many comments.” But thanx for the info. Many should consider smaller studios when looking for jobs.


Demo Reel, Smeemo Reel. Like a lot of you, I’ve made a dozen of these. And for a few amazing folks, it gets them in the industry (I’m not refering to myself:) Although, you have no idea how many people are working in major studios without ever, and yes I just said “without ever”, making a single demo reel. It’s all about who you know. If you don’t know anyone, then your demo has to be amazing. Nobody takes a chance on a nobody; that is the attitude of hollywood (I personally disagree with this, but that is how it is). Your demo is your chance to be somebody in the industry.

Once you get into a studio though, you’ll puke when you learn how most people got their
first break.

Just my 2 cents…


Trust me, as someone dying to get in, I take it… Tell us some of the stories please.





When my studio does reel screenings, we barely care who knows who. If it’s a factor, it’s pretty much peripheral. ie, “Is he easy to work with?” etc… It’s all about the reel. And the simple fact is a good 75% of them aren’t up to snuff, most of which are from ‘major’ schools. (the other 15% go in the ‘last resort’ pile, and 10% are good/usable) This is for TV production, mind you, not even film or commercials.

Funny enough, as CG animation has evolved, the work coming out of schools hasn’t. Not from an animation standpoint anyway. Reels animated 10 years ago made the exact same mistakes as the ones we see every week nowadays. Only the lighting and glittery post fx have improved.

Heck, I sure made those mistakes up the wazoo in school. Took several more reels for me to get my foot in the door. It’s not quite as nastily incestuous and ‘connections-centric’ as you make it sound.


Please enlighten us, make a thread about what NOT to do in your reel, and things you should do, I’m sure many “fresh” artists would really find this helpfull.

Just joining the conversation…