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Old 12-28-2009, 03:21 PM   #1
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Bone between two bones expression

Hello!
I'm trying to create an expression to keep the elbow bone right in the middle of the upper arm and forearm bones. (for joint deformation purpose)
How the heck can I setup the expression?

Thank you in advanced for your ideas !!!
 
Old 12-29-2009, 07:26 PM   #2
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I'd use same as item in stead of expressions. They are much easier to work with. Plus it works better with IK.

I made a example scene. I'm not sure if this it's exactly what your looking for. I hope it helps though.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:47 AM   #3
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Thanks Castius... but, no, It's not what I had in mind. (thank you all the same for the scene!)
Here are 2 pics.
The elbow bone (shorter in the pics) should be pointing out in the middle of the upper arm and forearm bones. I'd like to make an expression for this, like taking the angle :upperArm/ ForeArm and dividing It by two. I tried several things but It doesn't seems to work so far.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:54 AM   #4
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Use some expressions with center .See attach

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Old 12-30-2009, 11:55 AM   #5
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That's exactly what I had in mind!!!
Thank you very much!!!
Where could I learn more about expressions? I checked various tuts on the web but It's hard to get into rigging with expressions when you're not familiar with It...
Happy new year's eve!

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Old 12-30-2009, 12:04 PM   #6
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Try also this file with ik _See attach
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:15 PM   #7
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I kind of figured that is what you wanted. But the way you describe it i decided to give you the harder to do example.

Also make sure you using joint compensation. This is basically the same effect but it's just a part of the bones deformation system.

Here is a half rotation using "same as item".
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:23 PM   #8
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Where could I learn more about expressions? I checked various tuts on the web but It's hard to get into rigging with expressions when you're not familiar with It...


www.rebelhill.net
 
Old 12-31-2009, 09:44 AM   #9
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Hey, Chris! That's a very smart use of the center expression in your IK example! I like It a lot! Thanks!
Beast: I'd seen a post a while back in newtek forum about this tutorials set... I think you're right! It looks really complete! I'm going to make myself a little present for christmas!
Thank you!

Castius: thank you for your scenes!
 
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