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Old 07 July 2003   #1
MS announced critical security holes in it OS's

I saw this on the Yahoo News section...

"Microsoft Corp. acknowledged a critical vulnerability Wednesday in nearly all versions of its flagship Windows operating system software, the first such design flaw to affect its latest Windows Server 2003 software. Microsoft said the vulnerability could allow hackers to seize control of a victim's Windows computer over the Internet, stealing data, deleting files or eavesdropping on e-mails. The company urged customers to immediately apply a free software repairing patch available from Microsoft's Web site"

Using Internet Explorer .. click TOOLS > WINDOWS UPDATE. When I did mine I had 7 updates to download, most all from today's announcement.


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Old 07 July 2003   #2
what else is new? Like every whole in windows lets hackers "take full control of your computer." Then again, thats what most exploits do. I don't understand why everything thinks windows has to be bullet proof. It would take years of testing before they could release an OS that would be bullet proof, which is impossible in this market. Besides, they make it sound like the world is full of hackers that want to take over YOUR computer, and WILL.. blah.. no one cares. I don't loose sleep over it. It seems like 70% of the population still runs on win9x anyway...
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Old 07 July 2003   #3
No way! Not Microsoft!



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Old 07 July 2003   #4
It would take years of testing before they could release an OS that would be bullet proof

Do you think it is possible to make a "bullet proof" OS?, it's not, no matter how long it took.
 
Old 07 July 2003   #5
OpenBSD...
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Old 07 July 2003   #6
I don't really care if they start spying on my emails or stuff like that. I dont have anything important on this computer. The computer thats not connected to the internet....thats a whole different story!
 
Old 07 July 2003   #7
Not even OpenBSD is bullet proof. It's close, but security is an ever evolving field. You just can't rely on any OS to do all your work for you...
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Old 07 July 2003   #8
Exaclty. Which is why I don't worry. You can fix all the bugs and fill all the holes. But if they want in, they will get in one way or another. Servers you can at least barracade, home computers though, theres alot more going on that you cant successfully restrict. Its an endless battle.
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Old 07 July 2003   #9
Um... *Every* OS has holes. Mindless MS-bashing won't change that.
 
Old 07 July 2003   #10
This guy has a theory..

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html

"As events of the last several weeks have shown, Microsoft Windows, e-mail and the Internet create the perfect breeding ground for virus attacks. They don't even have to exploit Windows flaws to be effective. Any Visual BASIC programmer with a good understanding of how Windows works can write a virus. "

"According to these programmers, Microsoft wants to replace TCP/IP with a proprietary protocol -- a protocol owned by Microsoft -- that it will tout as being more secure. Actually, the new protocol would likely be TCP/IP with some of the reserved fields used as pointers to proprietary extensions, quite similar to Vines IP, if you remember that product from Banyan Systems. I'll call it TCP/MS.

How do you push for the acceptance of a new protocol? First, make the old one unworkable by placing millions of exploitable TCP/IP stacks out on the Net, ready-to-use by any teenage sociopath. "

Sounds plausible.. everybody says Gates is a business geniuses
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Old 07 July 2003   #11
gmask: Sounds like a pretty crackpot theory. Still, you never know. Well, sometimes you do...
 
Old 07 July 2003   #12
Originally posted by Hookflash
gmask: Sounds like a pretty crackpot theory. Still, you never know. Well, sometimes you do...


The main point that I think still stands is that windows is in part resposible for the vast majority of viruses out there and it's not even because the OS itself has security holes but that many of the default programs like Outlook express for example are exploitable out of the box.

"The wonder of all these Internet security problems is that they are continually labeled as "e-mail viruses" or "Internet worms," rather than the more correct designation of "Windows viruses" or "Microsoft Outlook viruses.""

His theory is the least crack pot I have ever heard and he is at least reporting from a reputable website. PBS.. he's not coming from linuxnutslashdotimaloon.com
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Old 07 July 2003   #13
"Move along folks. Nothing to see here!"
-Bill Gates ushering the Quality Assurance team through the O/S Build Dept. moments before scheduled product release date.
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Old 07 July 2003   #14
gmask: What would MS stand to gain from this? Would they charge some sort of license fee anytime someone wanted to implement the protocol (is this type of copyright even possible)? What about people (ie, Linux folks) who simply chose to ignore it? I just can't see this sort of scheme being successful.
 
Old 07 July 2003   #15
Originally posted by Hookflash
gmask: What would MS stand to gain from this? Would they charge some sort of license fee anytime someone wanted to implement the protocol (is this type of copyright even possible)? What about people (ie, Linux folks) who simply chose to ignore it? I just can't see this sort of scheme being successful.


I think this is very well possible and what MS has to gain from it is absolute control over the internet. Why do they want this because the internet is the conduit for business and for piracy. Because they would own the protocal. They could crush small developers with licensing and implement any security scheme they deemed sufficient to sniff out people using unlicensed versions of their products.

For example they could prevent China from using any of their products by simple turning off the internet in their locale because if they wanted to use the newest version any MS product they'd have to go through the MS net.

Linux folks could ignore this but then they would be out on their own and cut off from most large developers.. they pretty much are anyway but those willing to go that path aren't the customers that MS is interested in and they are very few. The attitude I have observed of the vast majority of MS users is I'll use what's convenient or I see no reason to use anything else.

Most of the users will unknowingly make this a possiblity but I cannot see them successfully pulling off such a monopoly without government intervention.
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