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  05 May 2002
ok a real try this time

I am actualy going to take my time and do this until its good this is about the fourth stage and ill keep working on it !
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  05 May 2002
Btw sheep this makes 2 from me waaz up ?
  05 May 2002
Damn this one is so good

take it easy on me man , ,i was just collecting enough self-esteem here to post one , then you came out and posted this? , thats harsh man

I'll post ASAP (after my finals are over tomorrow)

  05 May 2002
Nice work, Trav! That freaking rocks. She's hot. Keep sketching, and maybe I'll post something.
  05 May 2002
ok i did 2 now you got to do at least one!!!!
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  05 May 2002
Hey looking allright!

The girl loks really okay, I can see no big mistakes or anything like it, but the guy seems to have had some beating in the face
You might wanna study a bit more on that male portrait, for instance his hair.

..But practise makes perfect!!!
  05 May 2002

Hey cerrato!

Good stuff. I agree that the girls face has volume because you nailed that one receding eye. The guys face is a flat because he is facing 3/4 but his eyes are straight on.

Cant wait to see your progression with these.
  05 May 2002
very helpful thanks i have a big problem with trying to rush through stuff in like 10 minutes the girl i did 4 times and took my time to get to that point but the guy i rushed throug! after postingi noticed the eyes and the messed up ear etc

The main thing with the girl was trying to get the eye (receding eye down does anyone have any tips for this or know of any tutorials to teach you to do this quickly or is it just from practice ?

I realy suck so geting advice and harsh crits doesnt bother me at all as much as i suck ill force my self to post so i can get advice to fix stuff thanx guys !
  05 May 2002

You traced the girl, that's so obvious

  05 May 2002
I traced it 3 times actauly !!!! nice site by the way maybe you can give me some help with techniques etc blak fish id apreciate it

I should explain better the girl took 3 hours! and on several sheets the guy was on one sheet real fast (real fast for me ) the guy sketch took 20 minutes I dont realy have a problem when i sit down to do a long drawn out pic the problem is its long and drawn out lol i did a tut lol me doing a 2d tut hahahah on how i do pics when i do them like the girl its not realy sketiching when its done this way more like aa blue print but effective her it is did this in about 40 minutes while talking to a firend on msn so its not that good

This is not the same pic as the tut sorry just a cleaner copy tools i use mechanical pencil eraser .03 ink pen ,eraser, temlate ,eraser ,small ruller to flip ,eraser, and compas

and i also use a eraser alot !
  05 May 2002

First thing i do is draw a horizon line followed by two parelell andgel line
then i draw iris 's and one eye width apart i draw form the tip of where i think the eyelashes will be

After i get the basic eye shape i just guess a curve for the nose i use the top end point of it (exteneded just a bit from the edge of the eye as a guide to draw a circle for the basic head mass

Next i use the same point tooo draw a verticle line along theedge of the circle down and a horizontal line this will guid me in placeing the ear and the cheeck bone among other things later draw a small cheek bone curve from just above the croner of the eye
  05 May 2002
the next steps I usualy take are the lips the edges as far as i can tell look best when they are lined up with the middle of the pupil opr around abuot and the middle of the lips looks to me to be about even with the bend in the jaw give or take a inch or so placing the ear etc

At this stage i can realy see things starting to go wrong fairly well for example the lips need to be tilted forward and wrap the face better the jaw line is a lil off and the corner of it not right chin is looking goofy etc so i go ahead now that i have the general shape throwsome scribled hair lines on and that is about the end of the first page for me

after i do all the above i trace the face onto a new paper the areas that willbbe changed like lips so on are sketched lightly i try to keep the pointsfrom areas i like or no to be good like the cheek isnt bad so i leave it but try to add a slight s curve to the chin Lips and the receding eye are two hard ones for me so i spend alot of time on it too when i get to a point i think its decent the papers is usuealy a mess

so again i try to find mistakes and there usualy still there ! :( trace again for a clean look and then work on a final thats about it this didnt take me long but then again its notthat great either but maybe it will help someone or help someone help me

drawing like this doesnt do me alot of good or anyone else i dont think i am just trying to learn to do it all free hand so to speak and faster more productive any help is welcome

  05 May 2002
heyas trav,

The technique ure using is really good!
that trick to metch the eyes to the angle of the shot using the parallel lines connected to a viewpoint is very usefull.

the lines of the final product are clean and flowed.
and she has a sexy look too

i liked that male face too. i think its ready to be painted over.
i really like the idea of having tutorials here, cos i use to spend a lot of time studying paintings and 3d scenes to find out the tricks myself and thats really time consuming.
thanks a lot buddy
  05 May 2002
FWIW: This helped me quite a bit
It may be too slow, but looks like a great way to learn to do it "free hand"
  05 May 2002
Well heres the final image for the girl tut i raised the jaw line and tried to give her a more sqaure face and difrent style eyes kind of like when my woman is just a lil tiny bit mad at me

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