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Old 05 May 2003   #1
Amd or intel

Hey guys

I was thining of buying a new computer. Should I get a |AMD Athlon XP2600+ 2.083 GHz 333 MHz bus Socket A (Thoroughbred) prosessor| or |a Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz Boxed PC400 Socket PGA478, 512kB "Northwood"|??



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Old 05 May 2003   #2
AMD, and make sure you get an Nforce2 motherboard to compliment it. The Asus A7N8X Deluxe is one of the best, try to get revision 2.0 of the board.
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Old 05 May 2003   #3
Get a Barton core chip, not the Thoroughbred.

Barton has a 512k cache as opposed to the Tbreds 256k cache.

One thing you might want to consider, AMD is shipping new 400 mhz. FSB Bartons this month.

AS was previously mentioned, get nForce2. nForce2 features are way better than anything Intel has.
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Old 05 May 2003   #4
Here's the deal and my question!

Ostov I have been quiet knowledgable with choosing a processor for my own use over the years but recently am not sure myself anymore. So i'm also here to add to your thread.

Basically AMD's Athlon processor's seemed to perform more than Intel and the price was always way more competitive. Lately Intel has jacked up and integrated HyperThreading which makes the processor actually perform tasks as a dual-processor. I stand corrected in this info but basically what i'm getting to is that Intel seem to be really good as of recent. Problem is AMD still have 3D Now so the only way to really know which will perform more is to build both machines and test render.

As far as I saw even though Intel have jacked themselves up the AMD's still out performed on UT2k3!!!!

So after all this I myself am at a loss to choose my next upgrade

Anyone got some feedback?
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Old 05 May 2003   #5
AMD

Of course it's better to choose an AMD processor, the P4 2.4 is not good. You can laugh at me, but in some cases Athlon XP 2800+ works faster then a P4 3.06 with HT.
 
Old 05 May 2003   #6
Here's what i'm talking about:

Application benchmarking

Quake III benchmark

Conclusion
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Old 05 May 2003   #7
Re: Here's the deal and my question!

Quote: Originally posted by Wancieho

As far as I saw even though Intel have jacked themselves up the AMD's still out performed on UT2k3!!!!

So after all this I myself am at a loss to choose my next upgrade

Anyone got some feedback?


Intel has a bit of a lead now (the AMD PR rating is falling farther and farther behind with every platform and core revision), but they're still definitely competitive, and they cost less.

Yes, HT does add to the P4's performance non-trivially, but it's not like having a 2nd CPU, it's like have 1/3 of a 2nd CPU at best, and in single-threaded applications, not useful at all. At least it no longer hurts single-threaded performance, though.

nForce2 alone is a good reason to go for an Athlon, though.
 
Old 05 May 2003   #8
I want a intel!! Here in norway a amd 2.0ghz cost as much as a intel 2.5ghz...



ostov
 
Old 05 May 2003   #9
Quote: I want a intel!! Here in norway a amd 2.0ghz cost as much as a intel 2.5ghz...


Well.....then why ask?
 
Old 05 May 2003   #10
Quote: Originally posted by Nocturn
Well.....then why ask?


I wanted to know if amd was super good



ostov
 
Old 05 May 2003   #11
Quote: Originally posted by ostov
I want a intel!! Here in norway a amd 2.0ghz cost as much as a intel 2.5ghz...


The Athlon there is probably a better value... unless you wait another week or two and get a P4 2.5 GHz w/ an Intel 875P chipset motherboard -- which will almost certainly cost more than a nice nForce2 board.
 
Old 05 May 2003   #12
Ahhh, the eternal question - AMD or Intel.
Kinda Brings be back to when I was little when it was Sega Vs Nintendo.

Ummm... yes...anyway

Yeah Wancieho AMD is faster with games, but if you check out benchmarks in Lightwave 3DSmax etc, you'll notice Xeons are still faster.

But as you guys have said, overal AMD is better value for money.

Though it is interesting that the Opteron seems to be the leader with server based machines\software, while Xeons still have the edge if you have a visual workstation (3d apps etc). Though the opteron is targeted towards the server market.


Just adding some more fuel to the fire
 
Old 05 May 2003   #13
AMD

Intel is never going to be as good as AMD. AMD is the one that does all the researches with 2d and 3d graphics and build processors based on it. Intel can be in some cases faster, but when we talk about graphics - there is nothing can win Athlon. This is one most of the companies buy Intel based servers but always AMD based graphics machines.
 
Old 05 May 2003   #14
Re: AMD

Quote: Originally posted by ICY
Intel is never going to be as good as AMD. AMD is the one that does all the researches with 2d and 3d graphics and build processors based on it. Intel can be in some cases faster, but when we talk about graphics - there is nothing can win Athlon. This is one most of the companies buy Intel based servers but always AMD based graphics machines.


In light of the fact that most of those studios you're talking about are using Xeons, I find that entire statement, filled with obvious fallacies as it is, rather amusing.
 
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