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Old 03-15-2006, 11:13 AM   #1
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Hiyu all,
Thought I might stop lurking about now. Year 12 (last year of high school!) kicked in, SO MUCH WORK. Luckily I have two art subjects, so I do enjoy parts of it.

Umm, yah. I shall be posting some WIPs here of the stuff I'm doing for my folio. Any help on anatomy is greatly, hugely, awesomely appreciated; I haven't drawn for ages and it shows. If you find other things I might need to concentrate on it'd be cool if you mentioned those too.

This is a sketch of a character I created. I'd like to know if people think the torso is a bit short/narrow -- and if it is, does it bother you when you look at this picture? (Sorry for the digital camera shot, it's a bit dim and grainy)



Thanks heaps for any feedback on this
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Edit: The size of the feet is intentionally exaggerated (not what Vertrucio is talking about, I mean the size in relation to everything else). That's about it for intentional alterations; the rest is due to technical ineptitude/oversight. Huzzah~

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Old 03-15-2006, 11:59 AM   #2
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First thing I see is that his right foot (the one towards the left of the image) is elongated. Normally it'd be alright for it to be that length and size considering it's closer to the viewer, but because you have the foot turned towards the viewer slightly the perspective should foreshorten it a bit, thus making it seem longer than normal.


Something about his right arm bothers me right at about where his elbow should be. I think it's because on his left arm the sleeve stops just before the elbow before the arm bends and rests on the knee, but on the right arm the sleeve covers the elbow so completely that the arm looks either too short or like it's missing an elbow joint.
 
Old 03-15-2006, 01:12 PM   #3
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Thanks for that, Vertrucio~ I think I made the sleeve too short on the left arm, le gross.

With the leg, I'm not sure why it looks like that, the photo reference I copied it from didn't have any significant foreshortening (see below); the foot is extended downwards. So I'm thinking it's the shoe's position underneath that's causing the misreading?



Shall correct it tomorrow and post it up; I can't draw past midnight. Thanks for the help!!

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Old 03-15-2006, 06:38 PM   #4
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Ah, now that I see the reference I see the problem. Yeah, it's a combination of the shoe not being in perspective enough to look like it's not flat against the bottom of the foot. But also, the protrusion on the ankle joint (That ball that sticks out) is overemphasized a bit, so it looks like the heel instead of just the joint.
 
Old 03-16-2006, 07:55 AM   #5
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Thankyou for that~ I altered the shoe and foot and made his left sleeve longer. I'm hoping the anklet thing will make it read better.

Started on the tree; I'll make the line variation better after I go over it again. It's meant to be a clipped juniper tree but it looks more like sth from Dr. Seuss The oval things lower down are meant to be pools of water.

Still looking for crits regarding the torso proportions. Thanks for looking!

Unn, I know the texture is creppy, it's on watercolour paper...



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Old 03-16-2006, 01:41 PM   #6
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Really tight work here Natasha. Really love his face. The tree stem looks great! I like how the smoke moves around so psychedelically(sp?). But uh, what kind of sandals are those actually? seems uncomfortable.

One thing that's maybe weird is the horizon line, it seems to be slightly slanted, but maybe that's intentional.


Very beautiful work.
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Old 03-18-2006, 08:41 AM   #7
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I'm not sure of the origin or even if they were used, but they did exist. Those kind of sandals were used to promote balance in its wearer, or to signify that its wearer had perfect balance.

The skewed horizon is more a result of scanning the paper sideways.

Excellent changes so far, but I've also spotted another issue regarding the torso.

Where exactly is the torso? In the area where the shirt opens, is that white part his torso and the dark area the inside of the shirt? If so, then the placement of his left shoulder is a little too far off the body considering the torso placement.

However, this is very, very slight and probably not noticeable by most, so don't try to correct it if you're already into coloring.
 
Old 03-18-2006, 12:23 PM   #8
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Hey jmboekestein, Vertrucio, thanks heaps~ Sorry I took so long to reply, my Net connection has been slowed and it freezes trying to load the reply page

Hehe yeah the horizon line is slanted because I suck at taking camera shots, sorry. Sandals are called one-tooths (forgot the Japanese word), sort of like geta...they were used for walking in the mountains, or something. Apparently it's easier to walk with that kind of shoe design.

Haven't coloured yet; this weekend is reserved for my Literature + English homework, of which there is a ton of . Likewhut. So I'll try moving the torso lines around on Monday and post again (yeah the white part is the torso).

Shall also start my other artwork for my second Art subject Ew, drowning in work.

Thanks guys,
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Old 03-19-2006, 01:13 AM   #9
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looks great!!! Especially the line quality and folds. No crits so far...

canīt wait for the colouring part

cheers
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:00 AM   #10
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heheh, how silly of me, you're probably right vertrucio. COmpletely overlooked the scanning part there.

Quite interesting moonlantern, I can imagine that it might come in handy for grip. I'd take my ole trusty flappers over those anyday to be honest .

Good luck on your tests!
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:14 AM   #11
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You're using watercolour? I really like looking at watercolor, it gives me sorta strange pleasant feeling.

Keep up the awesome work!
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:05 PM   #12
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If anyone has any good pictures of bonsai, don't hesitate to post them!!

Heh I spent half of today trying to fix the leaves on the tree -- not much to show for it, so I won't post an update. They look like something out of a Dr Seuss book (you can see in the last pic), which is...not what I wanted.

trialanderror, thanks! I hope you have time to finish the haunted house picture -- I really like it!

Haha jmBoekestein I agree, normal shoes would be much comfier, these sandals remind me of shoes with stilts on them. Got not idea how people even manage to stand up with themon. Ueheueh thanks about the tests and stuff as well I'll need all the luck possible...

Ninetales yeah watercolour is really nice, if I'm not the one using it +_+ The very loose styled realism pictures done with it are always amazing. Thanks for commenting!

So many hours drawing today and nothing decent to post. Sigh. Back to it tomorrow~!
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:52 PM   #13
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Hey I had found this bush on the web looking for fun reference. It might help, reminds me of how tidy bonsai usually is.

Rooting for yah!

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Old 03-21-2006, 09:44 AM   #14
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Yay thanks~ They look like giant pieces of broccoli I did a smaller version next to the tree. Actually they're quite cute.



With the rest of the picture, it looks like this:



Comments and things appreciated...though I guess I haven't really added stuff to comment on in this update....

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Old 03-21-2006, 09:13 PM   #15
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I love how you can draw very smooth confident lines. theyr not all messy and sketchy. My favorite part is her hands.
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