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Old 09 September 2005   #1
Game Level: Cs_Prison

Hey.
Here is a map for CounterStrike:Source that I'm working on. The lighting is crap right now, I just threw some lights quickly. Some of the textures still need work too and I have to add in all my prop models and stuff, but here is where I'm at right now. C&C would be great









 
Old 09 September 2005   #2
I know these are early shots, but it is kind of hard to judge the finished atmosphere. Source maps are all about the polishing touches; without them, they're basically HL1 maps with higher res textures. Which is what these shots look like so far; I think there's a lot of potential here, but to really get it looking like a Source map you'll have to add the dust, particles, debris, and just a lot more detail in general. Dramatic lighting (a sunset would be great) will really help your geometry stand out too. This is where Source outshines a lot of the competition.

It's certainly not bad, but there is nothing too exciting about it so far either. Definitely keep us updated!
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Old 09 September 2005   #3
Thanks for the comments. Yeah, right now I'm just getting the overall look right before I start adding lots of details. And think I will have a sunset, for these shots I was just trying out a sky panorama that I made. I think the lighting will be a bit closer to this: http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv4000031pq.jpg
It's an earlier version of this.
 
Old 09 September 2005   #4
hmm im not quite sure if i follow this right, so you have a prison and an outside area? well one suggestion i have is that the prison is too bright, think riddick excape from butcher day nice and dirty, im sure you were heading in that direction anyway but...
 
Old 09 September 2005   #5
Originally Posted by Adam Atomic: Source maps are all about the polishing touches; without them, they're basically HL1 maps with higher res textures.


Couldn't have said it any better. Good luck with this map, you have a good start, just need to follow through
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Old 09 September 2005   #6
Hey rad stuff. You must have gone to an awesome school with teachers that really knew their stuff. not to mention handsome classmates!
 
Old 09 September 2005   #7
Yes, the lighting right now is nothing like what the final will be.

The classmates weren't too bad, just this one guy that sat up at the front, on the left, he was pretty bad
 
Old 09 September 2005   #8
as a specialized hl2/css mapper, i say: Looks great but needs some more polishing.
You can add allot of more details, but be wawre of HOW you you add them.
Read these tutorials about optimaztion if you want to have allot of models/brushes without lagging the game:

http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index.php/Optimization
http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/Lev...visibility.html
http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index...._%28Geometry%29
http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index....Non-Geometry%29
http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index....mizing_Your_Map
http://www.student.kun.nl/rvanhoorn/Optimization.htm

Good luck.
(i read them all when i was outside at the sun, man the sumemrholliday was totaly great)
 
Old 09 September 2005   #9
perhaps some more static meshes to establish where and when we actually are. Right now, you've got the generic barrels and dirty walls. Looks great so far(always cool to see "ingame" levels), but I think it's short of some unique props and dynamic lighting, but I know you haven't gotten to the lighting yet.

-pod

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Old 09 September 2005   #10
Thanks for the links xX_eXiGe_Xx

Thanks for the nice comments pod, but what do you mean by this?
Quote: perhaps some more static meshes to establish where and when we actually are.

Does that mean I need more screenshots, or that I need better world geometry? Also, about unique props, do you have any ideas? Being that prisons are usually quite bare its hard to come up with ideas

Does anyone have some ideas of what I could do for the lighting? I should have an update in a few hours.
 
Old 09 September 2005   #11
Good point. Prison's are pretty bare. hmmm, maybe some personal artifacts inside a few of the cells. Books, girly mags, etc. For the outside, hmmm, maybe some statues, some grafiti.

It this an actual place or is it made up?

Oh, by static meshes, I meant geometry created in an external app like Maya/Max and imported as props/world geo into the engine. Basically, the world geo that's not created with BSP brushes.

Wish I could help you more. It's a tough one..

-pod
 
Old 09 September 2005   #12
Just came across this pretty cool picture of a prison in Seoul, Korea. It had some pretty cool "hanging lights" and some interesting ceiling architecture that would make for some nice shadows.

I've attached it.

-pod
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Old 09 September 2005   #13
Thanks for the ideas and pic Some of the bits are based off the old Harlem prison and others are inspired by things that I see here and there.
 
Old 09 September 2005   #14
Ok, I'm just trying some stuff out, so dont mind the void Please let me know what you think of this redesign of the cell block area.



 
Old 09 September 2005   #15
That's looking great, Synth! Now you've got some interesting shapes in there. When you finish the lighting, it should look really nice. Does HLSource support light flicker? You could make one of those lamps do that I suppose.

 
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