Maya Eye Candy Reel (52mb)

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  10 October 2002
What is actually rendered in Maya? And what looks good thanx to Post in other soft?

I always think these reels are a bit of a hoax, you never know what is really done in what software (and if the software is actually available, i see a lot of shots that where done with in-house software...)

Cool reel though none the less
I've got a mind like a carcrash...there's bits and pieces all over the place.
  10 October 2002
Yeah I know what ya mean.

You'll see the same shots in the Maya reel as in the soft\XSI reel.

Sometimes it's just that the dynamics are done in Maya, while the character animation was done in soft\XSI.

Not saying one is better then the other........kinda
  10 October 2002
My friend here in Toronto, Matt Lyons, edited this piece together.. I tink he did a good job.
  10 October 2002
Hmmm.did he?
Could you ask him if they would be so kind as to make a reel which tells as what was used where? (like when it's modeled in Maya, could they put in some text which says 'modeling', acompanied by some sweet wire frame shots)
I've got a mind like a carcrash...there's bits and pieces all over the place.
  10 October 2002
Sure! He'll have that reel up on A|W's website tonight! Keep checking back for it.
  10 October 2002
great editing ,

Everyone loved this reel back at siggraph.


softimage reel is still the coolest
  10 October 2002
I couldn't agree with red_oddity more. This is a hoax.
In that sequence with Tom Cruise jumping from a car in Minority Report, for example, the car was a full size prop. In this "demo reel" it's there to make people think that it was modeled and rendered in Maya.
Many other great scenes, like the guy running through walls in the Levis ad, were also accomplished with a lot of practical effects.
This could be any tool's reel: Photoshop, Flint, Inferno, Softimage or even Lightwave.
Nice to watch, though.
  10 October 2002

It's the same with EVERY software reel. Alias|Wavefront isn't the only culprit here, they are just a fashionable scapegoat right now (everyone loves knocking down the guy at the top).

It would break the flow and asthetic of a reel like that to have a scene from Minority Report with markers saying "this object modelled in Maya". We're all smart enough to realize that almost every major production uses a variety of off-the-shelf software and in-house tools on all of their projects. That's why you see the same films, and even the same scenes in everyone's reels.

Appreciate it for what it is, nice eye candy.

Last edited by alphatron : 10 October 2002 at 06:05 PM.
  10 October 2002
I agree that it is eye candy, and very good to watch. Inspirational.
The reason I am so critic about it, is that several months ago i had to make the decission to commit with one 3D program (my budget allows me to buy only one), and the galleries of other products (specially Lightwave), show you real work made by real people (not ILM demigods) so you can asses if that tool is what you are looking for.
It would be, in my opinion, more honest to say (again, like in Lightwave's site) this is the work made only with our tool. And here is a list of movies where our tool has been used, and for what.
Anyway, maybe it is also envy. I couldn't afford Maya Unlimited even if I considered it the best software.
(By the way, I decided to buy 3DS MAX, Lightwave's workflow sucks)
  10 October 2002
>>and the galleries of other products (specially Lightwave), show you real work made by real people (not ILM demigods) so you can asses if that tool is what you are looking for.

Sorry dude, but Newtek is not above this. ILM's rebel unit used LW for many scenes in EP2 on the mac. Newtek has those scenes on their demo reel too. When you put together a reel you want to use all the best stuff possible because it is made to wow people, not discriminate how small of a part their software had in the piece. Marketing is not about showing you what the average person can do, it is about showing the best possible pieces no matter how small a part it actually had in the shot.

I remember at siggraph 99 there must have been 40 booths with Star Wars EP1 on their reels. Everywhere you look you saw starwars.
  10 October 2002

brings me back to siggraph

they were looping that reel at the Maya party at that train station place. Pretty cool party, met some really nice people there
  10 October 2002
Quote: Originally posted by beaker
Sorry dude, but Newtek is not above this

but in newtek's defence at least they state exactly what their software was used for in each production on their projects list web page
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