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  09 September 2004
Thumbs up Tae hyung kim brushes?

Just wondering what blenders and brushes the korean artist tae hyung kim uses. Thanks ^^.
  09 September 2004
It doesn't really matter if you know what brushes he uses. Reality is, you can mimic the look exactly if you understand how/why he paints the way he does. If you don't have that understanding, even if he gave you his brushes, you still would not be able to paint the way he does.
  09 September 2004
Can you post his website? Never heard of him.

  09 September 2004
Ya i feel that understanding "how" he does that is much better then "what" he use. It is the same theory of different artists using the same brush but producing different style
  10 October 2004
Maybe you could try reading Luna's FAQ on his site. It sort of explains in detail why the specific brushes don't matter. I don't think he was intentionally being dismissive or anything like that.

Quickly paraphrasing what he says, the artist's painting isn't the result of any specific brushes(of course I dare Luna to try and go an entire week to go without his pallette knives ) but rather is the result of years of study and practice.

Basically I would really like it if you just tried to develope your own style and technique of painting, it prevents stagnation, and nothing's worse than stagnating, well, not counting cancer, or the black plague or something equally deadly

I just wanted to offer some words of encouragement, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, by bumping this thread back to the top, or stepping on toes. Maybe you didn't think Luna was being dismissive at all. If you've been to his site, then obviously you know he wasn't.

The funny thing is, this question gets asked in the forums a lot. A whole lot. The name of the artist changes from time to time, someone wants to paint like Anry, while someone else wants to paint like Linda B. The answer will be the same no matter who the artist is.
tutorial of sorts

A super simple tutorial made entirely in Painter, I made it after someone was asking where to find a tutorial on drawing and shading lips...it's not photorealistic, but was a good opportunity for learning, on my part. Just to show that yes sometimes I may sound like a total Hermione, but by no means do I know it all.
  01 January 2005
i was looking around and found this site.

  01 January 2005
i've looked at the tutorial posted above and i personally can't get it to work. in painter 8 the watercolor doesn't have "simple water", the digital watercolor does...however when i try to use it in the way they describe it just doesn't work. i don't know what opacity they use but if i put one layer down then try to go over it to blend and build it simply doesn't work. either it doesn't blend or the next time i try to paint nothing shows up. i've messed with the opacity and setting but reguardless of what i try nothing...

i understand the technique and i do my painting using the acrylic and i can get decent results, but blending in painter seems really difficult at times. know the technique in this case would really help my understanding of another way to do things and expand my knowledge. who ever said copying a technique is missing out...the way to begin or advace more quickly is to learn as many techniques as possible and build on them.

i even have the new hyung tae kim book, "oxide 2" and it has a tutorial but no text...can't see the setting because the pictures are small. if anyone has more details on how to get this to work properly please let me know.

  01 January 2005

It's important to understand that Painter 6 and earlier version Water Colors used the old Water Color technology, very simple compared to the Painter 7 and later version Water Color/Watercolor technology which is much more complex and the brush variants only work on Water Color Layers.

There are clues to find in most older Painter version tutorials but you'll need to know enough about Painter versions to notice them and figure out what to do and/or even if the tutorial will work at all in your Painter version.

For instance, if you're using Painter 7 and reading a Painter 6 or earlier version tutorial that uses Water Colors, you're not going to get anything like the same results and the instructions will be very confusing.

If you're using Painter 8 or Painter IX with the same tutorial, you'll be in better shape because at least Painter 8 has Digital Water Colors and Painter IX has Digital Watercolors both of which are very similar to the Painter 6 and earlier version Water Colors. Still, the instructions will be confusing because the interface has changed, there are different commands, and Digital Water Colors/Digital Watercolors work on both the Canvas and on Layers unlike Painter 6 and earlier versions where Water Colors only worked at the Canvas level, on the invisible Wet Layer.

The tutorial linked in the message above yours was obviously written for an old Painter version. The first way I can tell is that the author says at the command "Canvas > Canvas Dry" must be used in order to use the "color picker" to pick colors.

First, there is no such command in any version from Painter 5 to Painter IX, the correct main menu commands to dry Water Color or Watercolor paint, depending on the version are:

Painter 5: Canvas > Dry

Painter 6: Canvas > Dry

Painter 7: None - Instead use Layers section menu > Dry Water Color Layer

Painter 8: Layers > Dry Water Color Layer

Painter IX: Layers > Dry Watercolor Layer

The correct main menu commands to dry Painter 8 Digital Water Color or Painter IX Digital Watercolor are:

Painter 8: Layers > Dry Digital Water Color

Painter IX: Layers > Dry Digital Watercolor

In Painter 6, Painter 7, Painter 8 and Painter IX it is not true that the paint has to be dried before using the Dropper tool to pick colors from the brushstrokes.

Color can be picked from wet paint, either Water Color in Painter 6, 7, and 8, Watercolor in Painter IX, Digital Water Color in Painter 8, or Digital Watercolor in Painter IX.

The only version I have installed that doesn't allow us to pick color from wet Water Color paint is Painter 5. If we attempt to pick color from wet Water Color paint in Painter 5, instead the Canvas color is picked since wet Water Color paint in Painter 6 and earlier version remains on the invisible Wet Layer and the Dropper tool ignores the wet paint.

Even if it were a case of incorrect Painter terminology for the language in which the tutorial is written (of which there is plenty in this tutorial no matter what Painter version was used providing it was for any Painter version from Painter 5 through Painter IX), we'd be pretty sure the author used either Painter 6 or earlier version Water Colors, Painter 8 Digital Water Colors, or Painter IX Digital Watercolors.

The reason I say this is that there is no Simple Water brush variant or Eraser Wet brush variant in the Painter 7 Water Color, Painter 8 Water Color, or Painter IX Watercolor brush categories. The closest variant names to Simple Water and Wet Eraser in these later Painter versions' Water Color/Watercolor brush categories are Simple Round Wash and Eraser Wet (and, again, Water Colors/Watercolors in these later versions don't work the same or look the same as earlier version Water Colors).

Where the author says he starts out with simple shading and his brush technique is medium pressure on the darkest part of the shadow, lighter pressure shading to do a rough blend of shadow and mid tone colors, it seems he has Color Expression set to Pressure and uses a continuous brushstroke rather than picking it up and laying color over color. It could also be that he first paints the lighter areas, then paints new brushstrokes with darker colors, blending the darker color into the lighter color using very light pressure.

When he says he uses multiple passes to darken the shadows and lighten the highlights, it seems he's lifted the pen and painted over existing color to get his "buildup" effect for darkening, though it could be that he painted continuously passing over existing paint in the same brushstroke and in that way adding more color for the "buildup" effect. That buildup would occur using the same color over existing color either way. However, I would think he must have used a lighter color to paint highlights over existing color. If not a lighter value of the same color, with Painter 6 Water Colors, Painter 8 Digital Water Colors, or Painter IX Digital Watercolors, you could set Color Expression to Pressure and for highlights and check the Invert box so when you apply more pressure the color is lighter. Then, to go back to painting mid tones and shadows, uncheck the Invert box so when you apply more pressure the paint is darker.

Where the author says to move on to the torso, start with flats, but make sure you don't run into the skin.... since you're probably using Painter 8 or Painter IX, I'd suggest painting the skin on one Layer and the torso on another Layer which you can do using Digital Water Colors (Painter 8) or Digital Watercolors (Painter IX). Then you don't have to worry about accidentally painting on the skin. Even if you do paint over the skin, your torso will be on a separate Layer and you can erase any slop over paint.

I'm not going to explain the entire tutorial, but hope this will give you enough information to make it a little easier getting started.

Clearly it would help if people writing Painter tutorials specified the Painter version used when writing the tutorial and used the terminology we see on that Painter version's interface.

So you won't wonder what I mean by incorrect terminology for a tutorial written in English and presumably used by people using the English version of Painter, just in the first two paragraphs of the tutorial are the author's use of:

tool - when he means brush category (the only "tool" used when doing pixel based drawing or painting in Painter is the Brush tool found in the Tools palette)

watercolor brush set to Simple Water or as wet eraser - when he means the Water Color brush category's Simple Water brush variant or Wet Eraser brush variant

water tool - when he means the Water Color brush category or Water Color brush variants collectively

"color picker" - when he means the Dropper tool

Canvas > Dry Canvas - where he means whichever command fits the Painter version he's using, listed above for versions Painter 5 through Painter IX

Good luck!
  03 March 2005
Try looking through kis paintings and understand them:
Here this is an Ultimate SITE for HYUNG TAE KIMS work
  03 March 2005
You can check out some of his tutorials in the comic book Megacity 909 or something like that from studio ice. His tutorial is in issue 2-5.


"Make something idiot proof and they'll just build a better idiot."
  03 March 2005
I just his Oxide 2 artbook from animebooks.com. Excellent edition, much better than his first Oxide book. The book is all art, only 1 page has written text.

"Make something idiot proof and they'll just build a better idiot."
  03 March 2005
The guy's linework is absolutely awesome, he's definitely one of the better Korean artists out there. I love his work and think he should be gaining more attention/should be working more to get said attention!!
  06 June 2005
Mind if I revive this thread just to ask a question?

Does Hyung Tae Kim use a Graphire or an Intuos for his works?
  06 June 2005
brain and hand combo version 3.5.013.
lower models arent good enough.
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