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Old 02 February 2004   #1
Color pallette brush question

I need to do some classic style pixle paint art and one thign I cannot seem to do in photoshop..maybe somebody knows a better program is have a brush that cycles through a range of colors of tones as a paint.

The idea is that afterwords if you cycle the pallette on this image the color will strobe almost as if it's flowing down a path. My current heart avatar is an example of this except I manually painted the different tones to cycle through.
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Old 02 February 2004   #2
Hi GMask!


Damn , I not not sure that I understood you but usually for pixel art I use PS with square brushes, as for the blend that you're trying to achieve the best option I can think of, is to use gradients with the Mosaic filter which doesn't work quiet well since it gives you an antialiased result. You can also try "Color dynamics" foreground/background in the Brush options, but it works way better with a tablet.

Botton line I have no clue....hehehehe


Sorry for not being able to help you mate


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Old 02 February 2004   #3
Quote: Originally posted by diogo girondi
the best option I can think of, is to use gradients with the Mosaic filter which doesn't work quiet well since it gives you an antialiased result. You can also try "Color dynamics" foreground/background in the Brush options, but it works way better with a tablet.


Yeah gradients are okay if I want the cycle to flow in a linear direction but I need it to brush the brush path.

It's a cheesey effect that I think was common on Amiga paint systems like the live board and maybe on the Fairlight back in the day but I have also seen it in older video games.

I'll look into color dynamics but I don't think that's what I'm looking for.

I can actually fake this in After Effects using Colorama and Echo but I would be simplier if I could just paint the artwork directly.
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Old 02 February 2004   #4
I'm not sure I understand exactly what your looking for either . But if your looking to get an effect similar to what your avatar has you can create something similar to that in "Illustrator" with the "Blend" tool. Instead of choosing smooth color you can specify the number of steps. Below is an example using the shape of a star.

The first one has it blending from red to dark red. The second one has it from red to dark red to green.
 
Old 02 February 2004   #5
I knew the heart was a bad example..

Here's more what I mean

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Old 02 February 2004   #6
I'm not sure that might be possible to do with just a single brush stroke in photoshop. Specially if it's going to be animated. By the way did you manually do all the color transitions, or was that your workaround in after effects?

Here's something similar done in Illustrator with the blend tool that took only a couple of seconds, but then again I don't know if it's exactly what your looking for, or if it's going to be animated. I guess the after effects workaround might be your best choice right now without having to manually do all the transitions.

 
Old 02 February 2004   #7
>>> I'm not sure that might be possible to do with just a single brush stroke in photoshop.

Probably not but open to suggestion for any programs that might and are avialable for windows.

>>By the way did you manually do all the color transitions, or was that your workaround in after effects?

Yes.. the animation part wil be done in AE which is simple is create the neccessary stepping gradients that's a pain.

>>>Here's something similar done in Illustrator with the blend tool that took only a couple of seconds, but then again I don't know if it's exactly what your looking for, or if it's going to be animated. I guess the after effects workaround might be your best choice right now without having to manually do all the transitions.

Illustrator is not the way.. the blends do not follow a path and are linear blends.

I dunno maybe the painter can do it.. basically for every sample of the brush a different shade is used if I recall painter had the image brush that could paint the frames from a quicktime movie one after the other.. that would do what I wanted actually..
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Old 02 February 2004   #8
Quote: Illustrator is not the way.. the blends do not follow a path and are linear blends


erm they can do, just use the shape interpolate tool...they follow any shape then.
 
Old 02 February 2004   #9
Quote: Originally posted by halo
erm they can do, just use the shape interpolate tool...they follow any shape then.


Okay ..yes but then I have no control over the shape that is being stamped along the "path".

Also keep in mind that creating this needs to be quick.. like simply painting a stroke in a paint program.

Looks like I'll just being doing this in AE.

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Old 02 February 2004   #10
oh, i thought you wanted to make a shape like the heart and star...rather than the "S"

i seem to remember you can repeat objects along a path in illustrator as well, so you should be able to do the S as well, but i think you have to define them as a pattern or something...its ages since i've done it...have a dig around.
 
Old 02 February 2004   #11
Quote: Originally posted by halo
oh, i thought you wanted to make a shape like the heart and star...rather than the "S"

i seem to remember you can repeat objects along a path in illustrator as well, so you should be able to do the S as well, but i think you have to define them as a pattern or something...its ages since i've done it...have a dig around.


Yeah but that still wouldn't really do it.. let's just say this has to be in a bitmap only "paint" program.
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Old 02 February 2004   #12
Having been brought up on Deluxe Paint - I know exactly what you're after.

The tool you want to use is the Pattern Stamp Tool (you'll find it under the Clone Stamp in the tool bar). Basically, create an image with the gradient colours you want your brush to have - define it as a pattern, then use that pattern with the Pattern Stamp Tool.

Is this the effect you want?
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Old 02 February 2004   #13
Quote: Originally posted by AJ_23


Is this the effect you want?


Sounds like it.. Thanks
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Old 02 February 2004   #14
I foudn these two programs that are compared to Deluxe Paint..

Grafx2 96.5
Grafx2 is a 256 colours bitmap paint program like Deluxe Paint on Amiga. it supports many bitmap format like PNG,IFF,BMP,GIF. it is ideal for doing game graphics especially for GBA, mobile phones or PDAs.Grafx2 is freeware

Pro Motion 4.7
Pro Motion is a 256 color based animation and drawing package. It's ideal for creating animations and images used in games or Flash animations. It has a huge number of functions ranging from simple drawing over color cycling to onion skinning.

http://www.newfreeware.com/search.php3?q=Deluxe+Paint
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Old 02 February 2004   #15
How long does it take for each one of those peaces like the "S" shape with the stars?

Halo is right in illustrator you can define any shape as a brush(scatter brush) and draw your path and apply the brush to the stroke. You can adjust the spacing and other atributes in the brush options and once your happy "expand apperance" and you'll have all those shapes along the path. Then by coloring the first star and last star, you can then select them all and use "Filter-->Colors-->Blend Front to Back" and it will blend each shape front to back. You can then just use "Hue/Saturation" to animate it the color transition.

Below is a quick sample took about 3-5 minutes. Keep in mind you can adjust spacing between your shapes(ie:star) size, rotation, scatter, all in real time in illustrator so tweaking how you want it is simple.
 
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