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Old 10 October 2012   #1
You've all been here... Buy a proper CGGraphics computer.

Hello. My name is Axel. I've been working with Photoshop for many years now and for the past two years I've started working with Adobe After Efffects and now I realised I have to do what I should have done many years ago and this is learn to work with a 3d program. So I chose Cimena 4d. It's all fun and cookies until the scene begines to get crowded or I hit the render button. My computer is too weak for what I need. So I tought "hey I should buy a new computer" actualy I want to buy a workstation. And since a new workstation is too expensive for my budget right now (1200$) I tought I should buy a refurbished one. And I found this one:


Workstation HP XW6600 MT, Intel Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0 GHz, 16 GB DDR2, 147 GB SAS, DVDRW, Placa video Nvidia Quadro FX4600

I don't know what to think of it. I like the price, but I saw this configuration is kinda old... 2008.

So now I'm asking you. Is this going to be good enough for me? I am still learning 3d but I'm a fast learner.
 
Old 10 October 2012   #2
Originally Posted by axelldotcom: ...my budget right now (1200$)...Workstation HP XW6600 MT, Intel Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0 GHz, 16 GB DDR2, 147 GB SAS, DVDRW, Placa video Nvidia Quadro FX4600

I don't know what to think of it...
I would say you will be better off getting a new system with an intel 3770ish level chip in it than wasting your money on an old setup.
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Old 10 October 2012   #3
Waste of money, just buy the best gaming machine with a single geforce gfx card you can find and youll get the most for your budget.
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Old 10 October 2012   #4
The Quadro FX series is outdated, current cards don't feature the FX anymore.
Personally i would get a Quadro for CINEMA since even though you get less bang for the buck you have way less trouble with driver stability.
As for the CPU etc, get a current 6 Core i7 setup ( i would get a i7-3990), 16-32 GB RAM and two fast SATA 6 drives for system and data. If you want a SSD, but don't go for SAS, you don't need that outside of server setups.
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Old 10 October 2012   #5
I use a Samsung Laptop like this one for work:

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/.../NP700Z5C-S04US

Its exactly 1,200 Dollars and pretty good for 3D work.

Then again, if you go for a desktop, 1,200 Dollars may buy you a 6 core i7 Processor and more RAM.

Good luck!
 
Old 10 October 2012   #6
Honestly: getting a Quadro card is a complete waste of money for Cinema4d - optimized Quadro opengl drivers are available for max and maya, and traditionally AMD/Radeon cards perform much better than Nvidia cards in Cinema 4d Opengl viewport.

http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=ogl&order=desc

Says it all, does it not? A Radeon 6800 outperforms a Quadro 5000 by nearly a factor of two under circumstances.

http://www.cgchannel.com/2011/10/re...ia-vs-amd-2011/

For Cinema4d a FirePro 7900 (can$ 780) is on par with the Quadro 6000 (can$3800). And you get workstation drivers for that.

This has also been my experience: amd's cards work better in Cinema4d. If you are thinking about the loss of CUDA: get an amd 7970 (or FirePro 7900) for excellent opengl performance in Cinema4d, dual screens quality screens (syncmaster SA850 is brilliant) for ~can$1800, and throw in a GTX 580 3gb for After effects, premiere and CUDA rendering.

Which is still less expensive than one silly Quadro 6000 (and the gtx 580 offers faster CUDA to boot).
 
Old 10 October 2012   #7
Hvanderwegen: His budget for the whole computer is 1,200 Dollars, so the graphics cards you recommended are out of reach for him, financially speaking.
 
Old 10 October 2012   #8
Originally Posted by hvanderwegen: Honestly: getting a Quadro card is a complete waste of money for Cinema4d - optimized Quadro opengl drivers are available for max and maya, and traditionally AMD/Radeon cards perform much better than Nvidia cards in Cinema 4d Opengl viewport.

http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=ogl&order=desc

Says it all, does it not? A Radeon 6800 outperforms a Quadro 5000 by nearly a factor of two under circumstances.

http://www.cgchannel.com/2011/10/re...ia-vs-amd-2011/

For Cinema4d a FirePro 7900 (can$ 780) is on par with the Quadro 6000 (can$3800). And you get workstation drivers for that.

This has also been my experience: amd's cards work better in Cinema4d. If you are thinking about the loss of CUDA: get an amd 7970 (or FirePro 7900) for excellent opengl performance in Cinema4d, dual screens quality screens (syncmaster SA850 is brilliant) for ~can$1800, and throw in a GTX 580 3gb for After effects, premiere and CUDA rendering.

Which is still less expensive than one silly Quadro 6000 (and the gtx 580 offers faster CUDA to boot).


Quadro 5000/6000? FirePro 7900?
I would never buy cards that expensive, you never get out of them what you pay for.
Two steps down is just fine even for demanding work.
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Old 10 October 2012   #9
ya, I wouldn't buy a Quadro for C4D. My Radeon 7950 i7 3770k gets like 99FPS and the Quadro 4000 gets around 55
 
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