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  06 June 2012
Originally Posted by mustardseed: If you put what he said about 'something really great next year' into the context of the rest of the sentence (ie: 'we didn't have a chance to talk about a new Mac Pro today') then it's quite clear he is addressing the pro/power desktop user segment. What's coming next year may not be a new Mac Pro tower (I don't think so, anyway), but it will be a more powerful desktop solution for the professional/prosumer


This is my thinking, and why I decided to just opt for the best osx based solution available now.
My hope personally would be for a box that runs the fastest Sandy or Ivy Bridge Xeons, any of the decent spec GFX cards, but other than that, I couldn't care less!
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  06 June 2012
"we also updated the current model today" So after the current model there will be a next model, right?

I don't care what kind of box they put it in, current model suits me fine by the way. But a current "updated" model with yesterdays technology is a bit pathetic.

I think you did the right thing Adam. I'm also keeping my eyes open for a refurbed or secondhand 12core from last year. Will keep me satisfied for a while, I'm sure.

odo

By the way. Just read that it is now possible to have the Geforce 680 in a MacPro. Good to have some more opttions while we wait.
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2012/06...orks-in-mac-pro

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  06 June 2012
Modular Desktop?

I read that Apple had filed a patent for a "modular" computer. I'm not sure what this means exactly, but maybe it's the "something really great" they're referring to? The reality is that the "cheese grater" Mac Pro is very outdated from an industrial design perspective, especially given what Apple is able to pack into tiny form factors like iPhones and iPads and Macbooks. I'm not a computer scientist but I'm envisioning a small box outfitted with solid state drives that can then be added to piecemeal if you need to add more storage, more processors, etc. Like stacking Mac Minis on top of each other, rather than having this huge metal tower that has to be pre-built to accommodate that you're throwing inside it.

Just a thought, I could be way, way off base.
 
  06 June 2012
I read about this stackable design in a few other places too. But for Pro users the design of the current case is not outdated at all. There is no need to show off with a beautifull compact design, a functional box like the current MacPro is exactly what a Pro user needs. But maybe they designed a very functional stackable model that makes sense and gives all the power and expandability one needs. We'll see

odo
 
  06 June 2012
The modular approach is something i've wondered about before - and would probably make some sense. You'd add additional processing modules, GFX mods etc - probably not workable for many, but could lead to some uber rendering stacks if affordable lol!
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  06 June 2012
For what it's worth I think that people are reading far too much into Tim Cook's email.

Intel's announcement at the International Supercomputing Conference in Hamburg of the Xeon Phi looks very interesting.

Xeon Phi

If Apple do continue with the Mac Pro or a new product (as opposed to Cloud Computing service) aimed at "power users" then maybe they will offer these as an option in the 2013 Mac Pros.

I read elsewhere that the HPC market is growing at 20% per annum.
 
  06 June 2012
Refurb 12 core arrived this morning, no apparent marks or issues - Downloaded and ran Cinebench - instant doubled rendering speed with a CB of 14.17 - just got to wait for the RAM and SSD now!

Adam
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  06 June 2012
Personally, my SSD upgrade was a huge boost to overall system performance. From now onwards, my boot and scratch volumes will always be SSD. I went with OWC.

Charles, if that Phi makes it into desktops it will be unimaginable. Of course, it would only take us about 6 months to get over the initial excitement and start wishing for faster systems again...
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  06 June 2012
Originally Posted by mustardseed: Personally, my SSD upgrade was a huge boost to overall system performance. From now onwards, my boot and scratch volumes will always be SSD. I went with OWC.


I ordered a 240Gb SSD from OWC - Since my apps and system can sit comfortably with 100Gb, I was considering partitioning the drive (I assume you can!?) and giving a lump over as scratch!? - or do you have a send SSD for that?

Adam
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  06 June 2012
I did not partition my drive. Call me superstitious, but I've heard a lot of scary accounts of SSD voodoo. My boot and scratch share the same partition. My second drive is a HDD, which I use for data as well as a clone drive for my SSD with Carbon Copy Cloner. I use CCC religiously. I was warned that SSDs can fail in an instant, without any warning signs?!

But, my setup has been smooth and stable for over a year. No hiccups whatsoever. I am, however, on 10.6.8. No Lion/Mountain Lion for me on this system, I'm afraid. :-(

I am now contemplating a dual SSD setup...
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  06 June 2012
Ah fair enough - well I guess thats an easier solution anyway without having to specify a partition size, both system and scratch have room to breath.

Agreed on the back ups - My current Mac Pro has 4 HDD inside with backups of main volumes on separate drives, and then external backups also, so I intend to keep up that on the new machine

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  06 June 2012
I'm on a pair of 120GB SSDs in RAID0 and use a 240GB Revodrive as a scratch/cache drive. So far (8 months with this setup) no hiccups... but I still run constant backups to normal high capacity HDDs just incase!

If they fail, I can get up and running pretty quickly, so just the inconvenience to worry about
I've had more HDDs fail in the past 2 years than SSDs so I'm starting to trust them more

cheers
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  06 June 2012
I had an OCZ SSD die without warning last year (on a PC). Lucky I cloned it too to a regular mechanical drive not that long before so it was just a matter of swapping out the drive and back to work. I've been using Crucial SSDs since without any issues.

Cheers,
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  06 June 2012
There's no point in partioning an SSD for the sake of a scratch disc. Access times will be consistent, as will speed. Besides, keeping a scratch disc on the same drive as your boot files and programs will cause rapid wearing of the SSD and shorten the lifespan, so you're risking your system. If you need to get the highest performance for your scratch disc without risking the rest of your data, get a small dedicated SSD just for that purpose. If it breaks down you can easily replace it Of course, with enough RAM you are unlikely to need that scratch disc in the first place. As for the Xeon Phi, it's at a very early stage. Intel has a poor record when it comes to GPU and compute performance. The highest end gaming cards beat it in compute performance at a third of the cost, which is why the Xeon Phi is really currently only practical for specialist applications like Cray supercomputers. The real strength of their device as I see it currently is in the memory sub-system performance and overall memory capacity. In time it'll improve of course, but don't hold your breath. There are already excellent choices available and coming in the next few months if you're after a number-crunching card. The GeForce 680 isn't good at compute, BTW. You'll have to wait for a newer model specifically enchanced for that purpose that is currently in the works.
 
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