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Old 02 February 2013   #166
Originally Posted by Airflow: I think the best thing thats happened is Frank DeLise. Tbh, 3dsmax is central to that guy and I think he will do what it takes to continue making max better for the users as opposed to just doing something every year to get us to keep paying


The funny thing is that Frank was actually on the Maya team before switching over to the Max team . But i don't know for how long he was with THEM. Only that he forced a poor well-known 3ds Max 3rd party dev soul over to the Maya side and made him do Maya work for Autodesk ( and still currently is doing AFAIK )
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Old 02 February 2013   #167
Originally Posted by spacefrog: You mean that in earlier days beta security was'nt that tightened and they leaks happening and cracked betas floating arround. And now you rant about Autodesk being successfull fighting those leaks ?
You can't mean that serious ...


It may looked like one, but it wasn't a rant at all.
my point was that even with those beta leaks all over the internet, and all the
serious competition (Maya / Softimage) back in the days, there was no harm done,
in fact, max was getting stronger and more stable in every release, I think max R9
was the peak of that road, after that, some how max started to get weird here and there.
So, I don't understand why so much secrecy, If they where talking about futures plans,
ok I get that.

But why can people talk about the 2014 release at this point?
that was mainly my point.

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Old 02 February 2013   #168
Because they have to deliver what is announced within 30 days due to US regulations, as they are a publicly traded company.

Presumably to stop companies announcing things to bump up stock and not delivering.

I'm not quite sure why they can show some tech - even down to having an open beta, but not other things.
 
Old 02 February 2013   #169
Originally Posted by Steve Green: Because they have to deliver what is announced within 30 days due to US regulations, as they are a publicly traded company.

Presumably to stop companies announcing things to bump up stock and not delivering.

I'm not quite sure why they can show some tech - even down to having an open beta, but not other things.



ok, that put some logic to it.
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Old 02 February 2013   #170
Originally Posted by Steve Green: I'm not quite sure why they can show some tech - even down to having an open beta, but not other things.
Tech previews and Lab Projects are different as those aren't official products nor are they ever promised to be included in a future release (even though in the majority of the cases they do end up in the product). Where as product announcements are for official products and must deliver on those items during that financial quarter.

Complicated, confusing, etc, but it is intended to protect users to prevent companies from announcing something to get an influx of money. Without those kind of rules a company could announce something and take years to deliver, or fail to deliver it, or something like that.

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Old 02 February 2013   #171
Originally Posted by PiXeL_MoNKeY: Complicated, confusing, etc, but it is intended to protect users to prevent companies from announcing something to get an influx of money. Without those kind of rules a company could announce something and take years to deliver, or fail to deliver it, or something like that.

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Makes sense. If only this applied to all companies, not just publicly traded ones.
 
Old 02 February 2013   #172
Originally Posted by BrainFreeze: Makes sense. If only this applied to all companies, not just publicly traded ones.


I think it only makes sense to apply it to publicly traded ones. If Dave's Tech Shop down the road wants to promise it's amazing giga-render box for $10, there's no harm in it doing so. It might disappoint some people, but it isn't really a problem. When publicly traded ones do, it can play havoc with the share price.
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Old 02 February 2013   #173
Originally Posted by phaedarus: XSI will never be given either Max's modelling toolset nor Maya's animation, rigging and simulation features.


Oh my, you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

As matter of fact I've modeled in XSI and Max and animated in both Maya and XSI and guess what, XSI's modeling and animation is at least as good as Max's modeling and Maya's animation.
 
Old 02 February 2013   #174
Originally Posted by McNistor: Oh my, you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

As matter of fact I've modeled in XSI and Max and animated in both Maya and XSI and guess what, XSI's modeling and animation is at least as good as Max's modeling and Maya's animation.


He didn't seem to be talking about quality but rather integration.
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