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Old 04-05-2005, 07:57 PM   #16
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I certaily hope that this isn't a thread on how to do a cubist piece for a class project. If so it is extremely damaging. It is good to have discussions, but I think that it is important that in this case for example for sake of arguement that it is? Then we completely spoon feed the central themes, (sort of) and how exactly to do the assignment (Xeophex).

Man I certainly pity the professors and teachers who have to figure out how to deal with these issues of gauging what exactly the type of work students are actually doing? I guess ultimately it is based on the honor system of the student. God help us all.

So on the subject.
Not that I am an art historian, but I am a fan of history and certainly have some thoughts. Firstly I think that vrljc and DoInferno are the ones I would most agree with. A lot of these subjects are some times most rewarding when one does the research and thinking themself. Since a lot of the concepts of modern art particularly the period of the late 20th early to mid 21 century are all asking themselves the same question which is what is art, going beyond conventional symbology and abstraction? Picasso is not the end all be all of this cubicm movement (reference danistheman vbmenu_register("postmenu_2128149", true); link if you want more examples), but is I think unfairly attributed to being its daddy, much like Salvador Dali is commonly thought of as of with surrealism though technically he was kicked out of the surrealist guild if you will, do to his political views, which is a fun bit of irony. Picasso could certainly be considered one of the masters of the cubist movement, and his international fame and influence certainly help project it into the public conciousness more so than the other players.

Another artist that I think is worth mentioning to look into which is one of my favorites, though not mentioned here is Marcel Du Champ who was certainly influenced by the cubists and did some rather famous work like "Nude Descending Staircase No2" 1912 and many more. But more importantly he wrote extensively about the goals and exploration of contemporary artists of the time period and poked some fun here and there as well from time to time. I wish I had time to write some more, but I don't. Hope this helped.

Old 04-06-2005, 03:22 AM   #17
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personally I dont think theres a need to understand or master cubism, especially not as a student. if Picasso and the other guys created it in order to express their ideas or views of the world, then all I have to do is be as innovative in expressing mine. paintings should come from within, not from some books or instructions. (god, that last part was probably the most pretentious thing Ive ever written on the internet. oh well. =)) wouldnt "mastering" or using cubism just be plagiarism?
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