Originally Posted by kelgy
I dont see any questions or answers in Transformers except maybe "Should I buy GM trucks?--yes it may be a giant robot friend in disguise" or "What should I do with myself? Join the army and you might fight a robot." The inner core in Transformers would be robots coming to earth disguised as vehicles and fighting, and there is an element of that (I didnt care for how it was presented due to Bay's constant camera movements), but the rest of it is pretty banal. The device that creates robot life was neat but just a dead end prop that had little meaning in the story. The worst story issue was probably the lack of a real threat posed by the Decepticons. They werent shown as really dangerous and were easily destroyed.
Like I said... when you see the result onscreen you do get a sense that "Well some guys really got careless here." One of the things I can do is to walk into a movie (even one I made) and just FORGET everything I knew walking in. And if you do that with Transformers, it just feels "OK" and there's this minor thing about "No Sacrifice, No Victory" but it's all kinda sidetracked by this and that - it's not very tight... Mikaela never seemed attracted to Sam at all.
"No Sacrifice, No Victory" was supposed to be the motto of everybody on the film: Prime, Megatron, the Marines, Sam Witwicky.... but it felt like "Yeah, I get it now... LOOK! TRUCK TURNING INTO ROBOT!"
On the inside line, you just weren't there when the idea was for the robots to all talk in alien languages or not speak at all..... I also had a chuckle watching the cube "fold into itself" to become smaller. That was how they thought Soundwave was going to go from 40 feet tall to the size of a little musical device.
They told us the effect looked ridiculous.. well it's up there shrinking the most important thing in the movie!
Originally Posted by trevanian
Original or remake? (I like both of them a whole lot more than I expected, just idle curiosity.)
Adjunct to the TNG pitch thing is that one of my pitches was had two versions, but both were essentially variations on HENRY IV pt 2 (Falstaff is my fave character by far) and I've always thought Stewart would be a great Henry IV in the Gielgud vein, playing opposite Brian Blessed as a Falstaff type (my two versions had either Wesley or Dr Crusher caught between these two different types.)
I went to a convention about six weeks after the pitch session ... Stewart was in attendance ... turns out HENRY IV pt2 is Patrick Stewart's favorite play! Man, I really wish I'd pitched to somebody else that day.!)
I only saw the Christian Bale, Russell Crowe version. I never realized it was a remake. I was harping to everyone about how fantastic and ORIGINAL "3:10 to Yuma" was! Hahaha.
On pitches.. yes.. the SUBJECTIVE taste of the person you're talking do does seem to make a LOT of difference. Once "one person on the inside" is on your side? You take that person to the After-Pitch and it always goes easier because one of them has bought into the concept.