Autodesk CEO intends to switch all software to online use only

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Old 04 April 2012   #1
Autodesk CEO intends to switch all software to online use only

In an interview on Techcrunch Autodesk CEO Carl Bass states an intention to have all their software only available to use online with 2-3 years.
Old 04 April 2012   #2
That's just CEO buzzword speak, don't take it literally.
The GPU revolution will not be rasterized! -
Old 04 April 2012   #3
Thats actually what i though about a year ago when i had a discussion about piracy and stuff..
But making it for such a big software like 3ds max e.t.c. will be a failure..
3ds max UI
Old 04 April 2012   #4
Heh. Considering how long XBR is taking, I can't see it happening either... But Autodesk do make the dumbest decisions occasionally.

It would still be a good idea for people who hate the idea to flag it up - if it was a forced online use only it would effectively end my relationship with Autodesk.

I just find it odd that he would say something like that which would be pretty much universally unpopular with users. Especially how cautious the likes of Ken is about 'future plans'

Old 04 April 2012   #5
This is not going to happen!
The investment in servers would go into the trillions!
3dsmax in cloud computing is no browser game!
This would mean, at least 1 CPU per user!
Hmmmm lets see!

1 million 3dsmax users
1 million autocad users
1 million maya,XSI,Inventor,revit a.s.o users.

Lets see .. 3 mio * 250 $ ... 750 mio just cpus... and we need a bit more to make them operate.

Never ever going to happen!

It may be that he wanted to say that in 3 years AD applications are useable in the cloud.
That could be poxxible.
Mad,Sad and Bad to the Bone!!!
Old 04 April 2012   #6
Next up, cloudbased 4K video editting!
The GPU revolution will not be rasterized! -
Old 04 April 2012   #7
lol, good points
Old 04 April 2012   #8
So what am I going to do if my internet connection goes down again, when I'm in the middle of a deadline? I thought it was a hassle to upload final renders over 3G cellphone network. Next my whole workstation will be "offline".

How can anyone in their right mind suggest something like that. Even if it's only CEO idiot talk, it's still sad.
Makes me wonder what kind of people at autodesk are making development decisions, I'm thinking of caddies, viewcube, eggplant.
Old 04 April 2012   #9
Or me on my mountaintop with a permanently low-bandwidth connection... that'll be greaaat.

I was reading an article about cloud computing the other day and cloudman said something like... 'all companies with software licensing business models will have to move to the cloud in coming years - it'll be adapt or die'.

Sounds like Carl was reading this article too.

Mike Truly
Truly Media
Old 04 April 2012   #10
Maybe it's not about running and rendering with 3dsmax in the cloud. Maybe it's about download/activate via cloud. We are not far away from that.

On the other side, look at cloud gaming and see what's possible today. (I read about it, i never test it. I'm no gamer) For this, 3dsmax must IMHO completely rewritten. So that's never happen in the next few years. But it is IMHO possible that autodesk develope at those, complete new cloud software... But not for me
Old 04 April 2012   #11
What benefits are there for the end user?

The only thing I can think of is it would be easier to get someone up and running if going into a studio, but you've still got the plugin authorisation issue.

There are plenty of negatives

Internet connection reliability
Server side reliability
Unpopular with the dealers
The move towards a rental model so AD have total control over the product - stop paying and you stop using it?
Security issues for sensitive data

My last authorisation problem took a week to get resolved, but if that's any indication of the future, I'd be well out of it.

They've got enough on their plate with XBR without devoting resources to this unwanted bullshit.
Old 04 April 2012   #12
I am happy to say that I have met and know a bit about Carl Bass. First, he is a true geek at heart who loves DIY and nertastic gadgetry. Second, if you asked him to fire up Autocad and cad you up plans for an addition to your house, he could. The dude is way, way cool.

That said, the SaaS model has yet to prove itself out. Trying to roll that out in 2 years given the depth of Autodesks portfolio seems HIGHLY unlikely. I believe the computing power exists to handle it but the chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. In my case, the weakest link is Comcast's ability to deliver consistent internet service to my home.
Old 04 April 2012   #13
Originally Posted by captain brainiac: ...
This would mean, at least 1 CPU per user!
Hmmmm lets see!

1 million 3dsmax users
1 million autocad users
1 million maya,XSI,Inventor,revit a.s.o users.

For Autocad alone, it must be much more than that. Probably more seats than all other AD apps combined.
Old 04 April 2012   #14
I highly doubt that would happen. There's many international users who have extreme data limits and most users have average internet ability anyways

I wouldn't be surprised though if they change their licensing to a monthly subscription model though, like what Adobe is adding.
The Z-Axis
Old 04 April 2012   #15
You're taking Carl too literally. He just means that there will be ways the product will be experienced via the cloud. He doesn't mean that SaaS (remoting) is the only way. For example, there are already Adsk web services in Autocad and Revit (rendering) that require the cloud. These products already are "online" but no one is waving pitchforks at Adsk. At the point he says, "you will not be able to buy a desktop application that you can install", then I'd be worried. He didn't say that.
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