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Old 05-20-2012, 02:23 AM   #31
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So what's the conclusion?!

I'm finding it a nightmare trying to decide which card to buy next, every discussion on this topic has conflicting opinions. One minute I'm thinking GTX 580, next Quadro 5000, next GTX 285...
How about this one:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-...ards/15884.html
 
Old 05-21-2012, 04:47 AM   #32
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So what's the conclusion?!

I'm finding it a nightmare trying to decide which card to buy next, every discussion on this topic has conflicting opinions. One minute I'm thinking GTX 580, next Quadro 5000, next GTX 285...


Personally I use them both. At home I have a couple of GTX (a 480 and just bought a 670) at work they gave us Quadro 5000k's. I get all around better performance on my machine a home than I do with my dual socket workstation.

Well put it this way if a GTX doesn't do the trick you are only out no more than $500 or so, if it works just fine you just saved yourself $1400. If the GTX doesn't work, then underclock it to Quadro spec, if it still doesn't work then sell it for a small loss, or keep it for another machine and buy an overpriced Quadro. (just note a Quadro 5000 has only 2.5gb of memory instead of 3gb in a non-ref 580 GTX)

How is this stuff really all that hard to understand? I find it confusing that people would spend $2000 on a video card if they were not absolutely sure they needed it. I guess you guys have more money to burn than I do.

Just from my experience YMMV
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That's the main thing for me, even if the Quadro gives better performance, the price is so high it's not worth it over a Geforce card. A high end Geforce card is $500, soon to have 4GB versions. They don't have a 4Gb quadro so the 6GB is around $4,000. Which is not worth 8x the price.
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I guess I'll try another gaming card.... I'll let you know how it goes... Is there a particular 580 that's the mutts nutts? or should I just get any 3GB one?
 
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GPU rendering is mostly limited by vRam, as mentioned earlier the GTX 590 has only 1,5 GB vRam, so don't get confused by the 3GB on the box. The GTX 580 is available in 3GB configurations. This is the card I use at work and home and I am really satisfied.



@MisterS: I am using the GTX 580 phantom from gainward and have no problems. The only difference between the cards is the cooling solution and some are pre overclocked. I would just get the cheapest with 3GB. At my time it was the gainward. The phantom uses 2,5 slots for its cooling system, so this could be a problem with some SLI setups.


The next step is GTX 680 which is available in 4GB configurations, maybe at the end of the year we will get a card based on the GK110 but until then the 4GB GTX 680 is the way to go for me.

And there will be an iray release for keplar in the near future.

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Old 05-21-2012, 10:48 AM   #36
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I guess I'll try another gaming card.... I'll let you know how it goes... Is there a particular 580 that's the mutts nutts? or should I just get any 3GB one?


I'm really a big fan of EVGA's lineup.. quality stuff, build for overclockers so quite safe to push hard when running at stock speeds.
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They're also going to be having 4GB versions of the GTX 670, which is faster and cheaper than the GTX 580. However it's not supported by iRay yet if you need to use it for that.
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And there will be an iray release for keplar in the near future.



Do you know how soon? I have nine GTX 580's on deck I'm about to order.

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They're also going to be having 4GB versions of the GTX 670, which is faster and cheaper than the GTX 580. However it's not supported by iRay yet if you need to use it for that.


How much faster is the 670 than the 580? From what I read I was under the impression at raw computing the 670 was barley faster, that it was artificially capped by Nvidia.
 
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It might be capped compared to the GTX 680, but it's been performing better than the 580 in benchmarks. Here's one for the 2GB:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...eview,3200.html

Of course the main reason for 4GB is for GPU rendering (while not supported yet for iRay it is for VrayRT) and if you have multiple monitors.

Looks like the GTX 670 is about 20% faster than the GTX 580
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Looks like the GTX 670 is about 20% faster than the GTX 580


OK thanks, that is about the speed increase from the 480's to the 580's also.
 
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One 580 should arrive very soon, I went for the 3gb gainward. My current project was struggling having display issues with the 7950GT so it will be a good test.

I might be able to run against a quadro 1800 at work if they don't mind me opening up a case.
 
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I while back I posted a link to a wiki page that is the "mutt's nuts" for comparing nVidia card specs. Pay particular attention to the new Quadros & GTX's, I think you will be surprised. People sit and argue "oh a quadro is soo much better" blah blah blah, proof is in the numbers.

Here is that link if you are interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...rocessing_units
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I was able to try the 580 3GB and so far it handles very well though I've only duplicated a ground plane and tea pot to get a high poly count.

12 million polys begins to slow the FPS to around 10-20 FPS. 50 million is down to around 2-4fps. I didn't bother trying any more but I'm happy with the purchase so far. Still yet to knuckled down on a project using it. I was using the nitrous driver by the way.
 
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regarding to viewport speed I have here 2 years old quadro fx3800 and geforce gtx260 on the two identical computers, the difference you can see in the attached image:



I am quite curious how perform new cards,
could someone who owns gtx580 - gtx690 or newer quadro,
replicate the scene and send your results here?
I think, even if you use other max version, the result could be interesting for comparsion....

my scene was in max2011 one box dimension 20/20/20cm and its array 20x20x20 instanced boxes,
smooth+highlights+edged faces

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Old 07-10-2012, 06:16 PM   #45
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Here is a recent test that was passed along. It compares a GTX 580 and a Quadro 5000.

GTX 580 excels at GPU calculations, where the number of CUDA cores come into play.

However, the Quadro 5000 excels at viewport navigation of high impact scenes.

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