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Old 10-02-2014, 11:37 PM   #1
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Autodesk going rental only in 2 years.

 
Old 10-03-2014, 02:10 AM   #2
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rental only for new users

but what about existing users/studios?
they'll have to have a cut off point i guess
certainly not looking forward to rental...UK is $600 more expensive for rental than USA for same app such as Maya for rental...same app...same language...$600 more per year excluding VAT?....

not a nice way to treat your customers.
Been with them since 1999...so maybe time to move on.
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:48 AM   #3
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so basically after the 2016 version of its apps are released it will be rental only. i guess we all saw the writing on the wall, oh well.

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"The number of customers that are one to five releases back on our software stays relatively consistent year after year after year," he said. "They are real customers . They just happen to purchase from us perpetual licenses on an infrequent basis because they can. This isn't really good for our ecosystem [because] we would like to see everybody on our most current release. We think that's good for customers."


so basically we know whats good for you, just upgrade already. don't wanna upgrade eh, we got just the thing for you

curious what the backlash will be from this, if there is any. maybe folks will just drop in line and do what most people did when adobe went straight rental.
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Old 10-03-2014, 04:26 AM   #4
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Autodesk can crawl development as well. Depends on how you look at it, you can rent the software for half a year, keep the current version for the other half, wait until next year pay for six months, and so on and so forth, over the course of five years you'll only have paid out roughly $2500, less then the cost of the software if you bought it full, it keeps Autodesk competitive because no longer are you selling $4K software.

AdobeCC you only get one major update a year, nothing more besides bug fixes for the rest of the year, over the course of two years you only have paid roughly $250.00 compared to $600 for the full version after two years. It does make you have to stay on the edge of what is going on, if you imagine three years not on cloud software and well you might as well throw in the towel. I know for PsCC they change little things, if your on version six of Ps, you'd be surprised on some things that are now gone.

Autodesk shares jumped, with this news as well as many users wanted rental software from what Autodesk quoted.

You all knew it was coming just don't expect development to change more or less it will remain the same a new update a year with patches or a patch within the year. This isn't just Maya, it's AutoCAD etc and there is no alternative to CAD software besides AutoCAD that is Autodesk love child and primary income.
 
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[QUOTE]This isn't just Maya, it's AutoCAD etc and there is no alternative to CAD software besides AutoCAD that is Autodesk love child and primary income.[QUOTE]

based on the article its everything AD
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When Adobe did same, everybody who I know stay in CS6. Autodesk want same thing? I used Maya and Softimage in last 8 years with Subscription. When Autodesk killed Softimage I tried Blender and I was surprised how great it is. I canceled subscription and use only Blender. Blender`s user base will grow faster with this subscription, thanks Autodesk
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Old 10-03-2014, 05:58 AM   #7
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it's AutoCAD etc and there is no alternative to CAD software besides AutoCAD that is Autodesk love child and primary income.


I always thought that Dassault systems which is as big as Autodesk makes CAD software too. Guess I was wrong.
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Old 10-03-2014, 06:15 AM   #8
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If Autodesk does this, then there is always perfectly workable alternatives like C4D.

With a handful of plugins it can do just about everything Maya/Max can do, so nobody has to be forced to stay with Autodesk's crappy new scheme.

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I got two years to learn Houdini I guess.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 07:47 AM   #10
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I got two years to learn Houdini I guess.

Hopefully not for character animation? I'd look elsewhere
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Look at Microsoft - they have heaps of perpetual AND subscription licensing options to cater for everyone from Professionals to students, to large families, to users in developing countries. It's great! Choice!!

Adobe and Autodesk are truly despicable. There is no reason for these 2 behemoth software companies to mandate subscription software as the only option, actually there is only 1 - profit...and control.

I'm flabbergasted Adobe have been doing so well with CC. I check their share price every couple of weeks hoping it has dived! I honestly thought there would have been a larger backlash than this, especially after the multiple times CC servers went down for over 24 hours and users could not authenticate to actually use 'their' software.

I guess we will have to wait for Adobe to suddenly double their price, fail to release any updates for a few years and charge on a 'per layer basis' to use Photoshop's layers!

To re-iterate - There is nothing wrong with Creative Cloud subscriptions - it is a fantastic deal for many...the only issue is that Adobe (and now Autodesk) are forcing this as the only option for no reason other than to generate profit. When will people realise this is a really bad deal in the mid to long-term?
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Old 10-03-2014, 07:50 AM   #12
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I got two years to learn Houdini I guess.


Yeah... im just hoping SideFX will "improve" the CA tools so they become a bit more familiar, Houdini is really powerful and I have friends already falling in love with it, but even they say that right now its not a replacement for Maya or Soft for the CA side of things, especially for Animators.

Im betting Modo and Houdini will get, just hope is sooner than later
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:40 AM   #13
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...not a replacement for Maya or Soft for the CA side of things, especially for Animators.

Im betting Modo and Houdini will get, just hope is sooner than later


The scary possibility is - if Adobe and Autodesk's subscription-only plans are very successful, SideFX, the foundry and the industry are likely to follow suit.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:03 AM   #14
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The scary possibility is - if Adobe and Autodesk's subscription-only plans are very successful, SideFX, the foundry and the industry are likely to follow suit.

And then MANY of us will migrate to... Blender.

Definitely will NOT rent. Subscription is okay as an OPTION, but not "forced."
 
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The scary possibility is - if Adobe and Autodesk's subscription-only plans are very successful, SideFX, the foundry and the industry are likely to follow suit.


They are successful because theres no options... and no Blender is not an option yet... might be for smaller places but its not for bigger places.

Blender was tried where im working right now and they abandon the idea... just the money saved in Maya licenses would be huge, but license money is not everything, training someone for a new tool takes time and that time costs a lot of money. You dont need to train basically anyone to Animate in Maya, theres thousands of already trained people that are so used to it they just use it without thinking and they can start up and running on first day (as expected).

But yes, everything nowadays is Rented... it seems owning is becoming a thing of the past...
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