Question: Tutorials for people that are new to rigging?

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  04 April 2004
present for you...


Here you go. Just finished this dog rig for you guys, its the same rig type we use at work. I'll make a tutorial this week , for now just have a play. It has all the standard features plus locking front feet for when they touch the ground.

Please right click and save-target-as:

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  04 April 2004
Downloaded. I'll check it out later today.....

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  04 April 2004
Ive included a walk cycle file too. And i'll do an html help doc tonight.
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  04 April 2004
Nice stuff Eef. I'm jsut beginning to pick through how you rigged this thing.

QUick question. The second file with the walk cycle dosen't seem to ahve any helpers included with the file. Is there a way to see them? I'd like to see how the helpers shift around as the character walks.
  04 April 2004
Skinning tutorial needed

Hi everyone,

does any of you knows a skinnig tutorial for Max (except Joan of Arc). I always get weird results on the elbow and knee joints. Tried to fix this with additional edges, gizmos etc, but it's just getting worse

  04 April 2004
hi Kungfu,

yep the helpers are there, just hidden.

just wondering if you guys want a biped rig setup, i would do the same like the quadraped. But possibly add a more complex spine setup. For you guy's to play with.
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  04 April 2004
Nice rig Eek

Thanks for sharing .........again.
Now I just need to add some jiggle.............

Html help file would be great.........its a very different rig to your other explainiation of the small helpers between each bone would be helpful.

Nice work.............thanks again.
  04 April 2004
A more complex spine would be interesting. Right now I relaly like the simplicity of the skeleton.

Also, I know you said you'd do some kind fo HTML file documenting the rigging process. I'd like to see that. I'm particularly interested in how you did the swinging of the tail and the ears. Those look very fluid and nice.
  04 April 2004

The tail (animated FK) is just a followthrough/overlap of the hips. The hip up/down movement is key directly onto the tail bones just ofset 2 frames. Its the same with top view rotation side to side - copied from the hip, offset 2 frames but also a whole offset of the tail 6 frames (half a step) - this makes its classic arc.

Arcs are key to animation, and this whats happening. If you rotate the dog so you see the back/bum, play the anim and watch the tip of the tail - it'll make the classic 8 shape.

The ears are very simple, i watch the up/down f-curve of the head. See when it gets to the tip of the arc and start the ears rotating 2 frames from that. The bottom part of the ears is just another 2 frame offset.

**The key thing with all walk/run cycles is that everything starts from a base. So for quads its the hips, and this motion translates down to verything else. But its not just overlaping everything, things have a key relationship with each other - weight to overlap- to followthrough etc etc. **(this is wahat a learnt at Framestore)

Maybe i should do a tutorial vid of a walk cycle walkthrough, for you guys?
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  04 April 2004
But when you started animating, you started with placing the feet and then moved up, right? Or did you start by doing the sway of the hips and then move down?

And for the tail, so you went into the curve editor and just coped the keys from the hips onto each of the three tailbones, then offset them by a few that correct? I never would have thought of doing that. Does that technique hold true for other kinds of secondary motion?

I would love a vid tut on a walkcycle, but I would like jsut as well some kind of documentation on the process you went through to rig that dog!

BTW, I took some of what I saw from your rig and used it to animate a simple walk for an ostrich. It was very helpful to have your file on hand when I was putting it together! I'll make a render of it within the next few days and put a link up here.
  05 May 2004
May someone post some c4d R8+ rigging tuts, thx.
  05 May 2004

an entire site for rigging (maya mainly)
  06 June 2004
EEK , very cool rig , thx!
  06 June 2004
ok, the plan.


Im gunna put together a website and possibly some dvd/cd tutorials on rigging for everything. Gunna be max specific ver 4/5/6. But could work for most packages.

Ive gotta work out some webspace and some dvd stuff. Give me a list of what youd like to see.

basic list:

reverse foot setup
standard foot setup
sticky ground foot setup

knee setup with look at control
knee setup with expression control
knee setup with shape control

fk/ik arm setup

fk/ik 4 bone shoulder setup

3 bone spine setup
6 bone spine setup
8 bones spine setup

hand setup - auto/manual finger control

hand setup - stick to plane

quad setup- 3 bone spine
quad setup- 6/8 bone setup

quad knee lock setup

biped setup - 3 bone
biped setup - 6/8 bone setup

unusual setups:


Understanding LOD:

Understanding LOD

Using reference objects and proxys

using control meshes

Theory on rigs:

how constraints work

how expressions work

understanding pivots

floating pivots and the need for them

Understanding puppets

theory of inverse kinematics

theory of forward kinematics

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Last edited by eek : 06 June 2004 at 11:00 AM.
  06 June 2004
:(! I want to see everyting...:(

eek do u have a website, i want to see some ur animation..

U are my new Guru ..
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