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  03 March 2018
$1K off - that's fantastic - wish we saw deals like that in the UK!
 
  03 March 2018
Originally Posted by Benek: Yeah, I'm still sticking with my mid 2010 Mac Pro for the time being. Until I can be sure that you can successfully run, let's say TWO eGPUs on either the iMac Pro or the current (or speculated forthcoming) Mac Pro, I would feel very uncomfortable about making such a large financial investment … Although I've read reports of people successfully running two eGPUs on the current Mac Pro, I understand that it's not without issues and I personally haven't found enough quality information on the subject to convince me… (I'd be very keen to speak with someone who's successfully done this!) … I would feel very sickened if I were to spend in the region of £10k on a brand new workstation that couldn't offer me as a minimum what my current 2010 workstation does… But let's be clear, if I was convinced it was currently possible run one or even two eGPUS on the iMac Pro without any hacks or problems in order to run Redshift or Octane, I would buy one today.

I'm waiting on the coming official eGPU support from Apple and for nVidia to get their Mac stuff sorted.  I'm on the regular iMac but it's top of the line single core speed makes most work a joy and buying refurb means I didn't break the bank and I can upgrade ram at my leisure.  And the 5k display is SO NICE.  Mac apps handle hi-dpi displays so well.

System level eGPU support is coming to Mac OS soon!  It's already in the Mac OS beta according to the folks at eGPU.io:
https://egpu.io/external-gpu-macos-10-13-4-update/

Perhaps by the time apple supports eGPUs natively, graphics cards will have come down in price to sane levels.



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  03 March 2018
Yeah, I saw the newest Barefeats comparison, between the eight and ten-core models. But, unfortunately, they have still not touched an 18-core. I will say, that the difference between the eight and ten is, for the most part, not a significant difference.

For me, it all comes down to how a loaded iMac Pro will compare with the number of older 12-core Mac Pro models I already have in my stable. The eight and ten core iMP are certainly close, but I really want to see how the 18-core model would compare with the older 12-core Mac Pro.

I can definitely appreciate the value of "quiet" that the iMac Pro affords. I'm used that that with my trash can Mac Pro models. It pains me to have to boot up any of my old silver towers.
 
  03 March 2018
Don’t forget power efficiency as well. I’m willing to bet rendering with the iMac Pro is going to be cheaper (electricity wise) than any of the older 12 core mac pros. 
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  03 March 2018
Originally Posted by phobos: Don’t forget power efficiency as well. I’m willing to bet rendering with the iMac Pro is going to be cheaper (electricity wise) than any of the older 12 core mac pros. 
I'd have to agree. The heat which blasts out of the older silver towers is measurably much higher than that from my trash can units. I'd have to imagine that the new iMac Pro models are even a touch more efficient than the trash cans.
 
  03 March 2018
Joining the thread with interest, as I am still running a 2010 12 core Mac Pro, and haven't yet seen a compelling/affordable upgrade path within Apple's own machines.
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  03 March 2018
Ditto. As time goes on, though, the iMac Pro looks a decent option – throw in the ability to add eGPUs (plus the work OTOY is doing on Octane) and I wonder if it's worth a punt. Still no idea if the new Mac Pro will even surface this year...
 
  03 March 2018
If you're waiting for the new Mac Pro, I'd recommend checking out this guy … Peter Paul Chato

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL...fW8cHua_rDpltTg

Interestingly I've heard a couple of reports which say the single core speed of the 18 core is on a level with the 10 core… Compelling argument to consider the 18 core !
 
  03 March 2018
Yeah, I enjoy Chato's stuff, but he's not really any more informed than someone with access to the Internet and an afternoon to spend Googling 'Mac Pro'. However he does make some compelling arguments that Apple might not be terribly interested in making a new Mac Pro that might cannibalise the success of the iMac Pro – and if it does, it might well be really bloody expensive. 

It's certainly a fact that when I bought my mid-2020 Mac Pro, I never thought I'd still be using it seven years later. It runs just as well as the day I got it and, more amazingly, it's really not that much slower than the Mac hardware I can buy today. In CPU rendering tasks the 10-core iMac Pro seems to be about 60%-70% faster, so for what I do (which is less and less these days)  there's not a massive desire to upgrade. Ho hum.
 
  03 March 2018
Originally Posted by Darth Mole: ...Apple might not be terribly interested in making a new Mac Pro that might cannibalise the success of the iMac Pro – and if it does, it might well be really bloody expensive. 

It's certainly a fact that when I bought my mid-2020 Mac Pro, I never thought I'd still be using it seven years later. It runs just as well as the day I got it and, more amazingly, it's really not that much slower than the Mac hardware I can buy today...

Yes, from an expense point of view I have been wondering about this. If they can price an iMac this high (regardless of it's built in 27" 5k screen), then what are they going to charge for the new base Mac Pro? - LONG gone are the days of replacing or superseding my main workstation with a newer, X% faster model every 2-3 years, which is why I too, am still running that 2010 MP. But, as you say, it's no slouch in reality. For me the biggest area of frustration is still in the GFX board arena, and not seeing any huge benefits of newer/faster cards installed in this machine.
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  03 March 2018
Yeah, and the lack of Thunderbolt expansion makes adding an eGPU rather expensive too – and somewhat limited. The Netstor NA255A PCIe enclosure is now nearly £2K! I bought one a few years ago, but it only ever worked with two cards, and got returned. So at least the iMac Pro will happily play with eGPU solutions via Thunderbolt 3. If I could painlessly and seamlessly use two Nvidia cards with the iMac Pro, I think that setup would be just fine for me.
 
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