I still hate the Windoze World

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  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by chi: I've always been PC also love win10.
While I have found the updates annoying 1 time when I was low on SSDspace, I have never found anything about it that makes me wish I was using win7.



If anyone is using an older version of Windows--and wants to keep using it...beware.

If you aren't real careful you'll wake up and Microsoft will have 'upgraded' you to 10 without ever seemingly getting permission to do so.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3074...-agreed-to.html
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by IceCaveMan: If anyone is using an older version of Windows--and wants to keep using it...beware.

If you aren't real careful you'll wake up and Microsoft will have 'upgraded' you to 10 without ever seemingly getting permission to do so.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3074...-agreed-to.html


A Disgusting Thread you started here...!
There is no way to compare an Apple Comp. with an Windows PC.
Man, a Windows PC is so much faster, more favourable and a better peace of hardware, that it will take centuries for Apple to bridge this gap.

The biggest You Tube People like Casey Neistat etc. just use it still because of FINAL CUT, there is no other reason to do so....

You are a hanged person to a fucked up marketing...
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  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by fireball101: A Disgusting Thread you started here...!
There is no way to compare an Apple Comp. with an Windows PC.
Man, a Windows PC is so much faster, more favourable and a better peace of hardware, that it will take centuries for Apple to bridge this gap.

The biggest You Tube People like Casey Neistat etc. just use it still because of FINAL CUT, there is no other reason to do so....

You are a hanged person to a fucked up marketing...



Uh...OK.

I won't bother to comment on this. I will say I got the bios reset and I'm back 100% operational on my render node so I'm less miffed...actually a bit happy....

...I'll enjoy faster rendering with my PC again. All is well....until one of my PC s and I have to tangle once more.
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by IceCaveMan: Issues?
-Viruses and malware (not porn induced!)

-A microsoft auto-installation of Windows 10 (without my permission) over top of my Windows 8.1 install. The installation was not only coerced it led to an incomplete OS and I ultimately was forced to purchase a new OS install disc.

-4 months later I wake up one morning and windows won't boot. After googling around I saw I had no option but to do a complete re-install

-Boot and sleep issues that widely afflict some Asus MBs...

-Nonexistent Asus tech support

-Then today a render slave suddenly stops rendering. I go back to inspect the problem and the system is starting and shutting itself off cyclically. I finally get the BIOS up and now it doesn't see my boot drive!

I've learned more about mother board error codes and system registries than I care to think about.


Click-bait title?

Mainly what you are complaining about are problems with Asus mainboards, this has nothing to do with Windows. And neither malware is a windows-specific problem.

Failure to keep a system clean is not to blame on Windows because it provides all the tools you need to keep your operating system free of malware. You just have to use them correctly.

I simply don't understand how you can say "I STILL HATE THE WINDOZE WORLD" when Asus has bad customer support and cumbersome BIOS. Perhaps you should know that Windows is being developed and published by Microsoft?
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by CGSorcery: Click-bait title?

Mainly what you are complaining about are problems with Asus mainboards, this has nothing to do with Windows. And neither malware is a windows-specific problem.

Failure to keep a system clean is not to blame on Windows because it provides all the tools you need to keep your operating system free of malware. You just have to use them correctly.

I simply don't understand how you can say "I STILL HATE THE WINDOZE WORLD" when Asus has bad customer support and cumbersome BIOS. Perhaps you should know that Windows is being developed and published by Microsoft?



-Click bait? I'm sure not getting paid for views or clicks.

-From the top I've been referencing the Windows ecosystem not the OS per se. It's commonplace to discuss computing platforms in this way.

-I've never had any virus or malware issues on Mac and never needed protection software. That's the normal experience for Mac users. On Windows I'm now running anti-virus AND malwarebytes.

-What I'm complaining about is partially Asus motherboards. But Microsoft ForceWare--pushing windows 10 installation over top of my Windows 8 installation...completely screwed me over. That's been widely talked about in the tech press. The MS forceWare ran into driver problems and didn't complete installation, leaving me to clean up the mess.

-Even IBM has documented how much more trouble-free Macs are in terms of repair and system maintenance. I'm not saying anything that isn't patently obvious. IBM says they save $543 per user per year using Macs in their enterprise.
Link: http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/...3-per-user.html

I'm not going back to Mac for my 3d work...just venting.

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  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by IceCaveMan: -Click bait? I'm sure not getting paid for views or clicks.

-From the top I've been referencing the Windows ecosystem not the OS per se. It's commonplace to discuss computing platforms in this way.

-I've never had any virus or malware issues on Mac and never needed protection software. That's the normal experience for Mac users. On Windows I'm now running anti-virus AND malwarebytes.

-What I'm complaining about is partially Asus motherboards. But Microsoft ForceWare--pushing windows 10 installation over top of my Windows 8 installation...completely screwed me over. That's been widely talked about in the tech press. The MS forceWare ran into driver problems and didn't complete installation, leaving me to clean up the mess.

-Even IBM has documented how much more trouble-free Macs are in terms of repair and system maintenance. I'm not saying anything that isn't patently obvious. IBM says they save $543 per user per year.
Link: http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/...3-per-user.html

I'm not going back to Mac for my 3d work...just venting.


I do understand frustration with technical issues because they can endanger work progress but you shouldn't bash an entreprise because you have been ignoring the tools Microsoft has given you in order have fun with Windows. For example setting a firewall up correctly and enabling role-based access control protects you from numerous threats.

Microsoft does not force anybody to install Windows 10 since every user has the option to accept or to decline. Regretting an update does justify acting like a victim.

And latter part of your comment is hardly related to the Windows discussion either because while IBM may have a preference for Mac machines, your linked article does not say a single word about the operating system being used. Therefore it is very well possible that they are using Windows - at least next to other operating systems like OS X or linux-based ones.
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by CGSorcery: I do understand frustration with technical issues because they can endanger work progress but you shouldn't bash an entreprise because you have been ignoring the tools Microsoft has given you in order have fun with Windows. For example setting a firewall up correctly and enabling role-based access control protects you from numerous threats.

Microsoft does not force anybody to install Windows 10 since every user has the option to accept or to decline. Regretting an update does justify acting like a victim.

And latter part of your comment is hardly related to the Windows discussion either because while IBM may have a preference for Mac machines, your linked article does not say a single word about the operating system being used. Therefore it is very well possible that they are using Windows - at least next to other operating systems like OS X or linux-based ones.


You haven't heard about involuntarily getting your machine upgraded by Redmond? It's been discussed in countless articles--and widely derided. The opt out was obfuscated as many attest.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-complain-users

The report from IBM was a comparison of using Macintoshes versus PC. They concluded that the combined costs of service, maintenance, debugging and user training cost the company over $500 more w/PC than with Mac. Per user and per year. That's IBM, where we aren't talking about simple-minded unsavy PC users.

Sounds like you are taking a hard party line here. I'm non-partisan. I use Macs. I use Windows. I use iPhone. I've owned Android. I offer praise...and criticism objectively...with all tech products....not based on agenda.

Last edited by IceCaveMan : 04 April 2017 at 10:50 PM.
 
  04 April 2017
An excerpt from the Guardian article I posted above:


"Windows 7 users are reporting that Windows 10 is automatically installing on their PCs without permission.

Scores of users have posted on Twitter, forums, Reddit and gaming sites to complain about Windows 10 automatically installing, seemingly without asking, and often in the middle of doing something important.

Reddit user LHoT10820 posted a warning, which has attracted over 2,800 comments, about the forced Windows 10 upgrade after it “bricked” his father’s computer."
 
  04 April 2017
I download VR porn like there's no tomorrow, and yet I dont have virus / malaware.
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  04 April 2017
I remember when this forum used to be about C4D problem solving, tips and tricks, asset sharing and stuff like that.
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by JoelDubin: I remember when this forum used to be about C4D problem solving, tips and tricks, asset sharing and stuff like that.


3D use is driving a lot of users here to consider migrating platforms, which is a MASSIVE consideration, involving money and time. I'd say it's one of the most important things talked about around here. The topic has spawned a huge number of active discussions.

We've always discussed hardware and platforms on this site. It's a good bet we always will.

I'm providing feedback as one of those who has made the transition. I'm glad I switched, but it's certainly involved issues that others here might find informative.

So...a little hint: If a thread doesn't interest you.....it's real simple. Don't read it. And take the petty little comments elsewhere.

Last edited by IceCaveMan : 04 April 2017 at 03:21 AM.
 
  04 April 2017
Theres also a proper forum on cgsociety for such discussions so if you want to talk a out such thing you could post it in the appropriate place so that people here can focus on c4d discussions.
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  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by luisRiera: I download VR porn like there's no tomorrow, and yet I dont have virus / malaware.


LOL. I guess your skills exceed mine, bro! Cheers.
 
  04 April 2017
Originally Posted by LucentDreams: Theres also a proper forum on cgsociety for such discussions so if you want to talk a out such thing you could post it in the appropriate place so that people here can focus on c4d discussions.


No thanks! I'll talk about it right here, thank you.

This is where the c4d people are. We have another active discussion about the new Mac right now and it's quite active. People want to talk about this as it directly impacts their c4d work. In case you've been snoozing we have hardware related discussions at least once a month on this forum.

We've talked Nvidia, Ryzen, CUDA to great length lately.

Last edited by IceCaveMan : 04 April 2017 at 08:27 AM.
 
  04 April 2017
This is clearly a venting thread, this isn't really constructive or related to C4D.

I'm a PC user, I don't mind a couple of threads in here talking about the future of Macs as a 3D platform, as it could impact me in the longer run, but really "Windoze sucks" is neither C4D related or constructive.

Windows is obviously perfectly capable of running C4D or any other 3D apps, it does so quite fine for the vast majority of people and they don't have magically appearing viruses unless they do something foolish or forgot to have a proper anti-virus.

Some might have a different experience due to bad luck or an unfortunate combination of events, but that doesn't really make this thread any more relevant.
 
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