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  08 August 2013
For animation it should all be largely as efficient as it was before, afterall its just copying a project to a machine, rendering and sending it back. For stills though, it depends how big the job is; the smaller the job, the more the network speed will weigh against you. If the image takes 60 seconds to render, then on a gigabit network, anything more than half a dozen machines and it wont be worth using them, as it will take longer to send the project out and get the results back than the rendering takes.

A larger project though, say a 1 hour render for a still, I doubt anyone would hit any realistic limit for rendering a still of that sort of magnitude.
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  08 August 2013
Originally Posted by imashination: For animation it should all be largely as efficient as it was before, afterall its just copying a project to a machine, rendering and sending it back. For stills though, it depends how big the job is; the smaller the job, the more the network speed will weigh against you. If the image takes 60 seconds to render, then on a gigabit network, anything more than half a dozen machines and it wont be worth using them, as it will take longer to send the project out and get the results back than the rendering takes.

A larger project though, say a 1 hour render for a still, I doubt anyone would hit any realistic limit for rendering a still of that sort of magnitude.



thanks for weighing in here mash, i appreciate the insight.

while also not wanting to take this VRAY thread away into a team render direction i can't help but ask one question about your reply.

say you do have lots of machines set up in TR, and it works fine with animations and the full frame rendering - no performance issues etc, can you or how can you then set off a distributed render to your list but not send to the whole TR clients list?

basically if say the performance of DR on gigabit ethernet peaks at say 10 TR clients, can you or how can you send a DR to just 10 of the TR nodes? and not bog everything down by having 40 nodes all churning up the ethernet (or worse crashing the TR nodes)

i know i will be testing this first hand soon enough, but curiosity has got me and if you can share the info that is welcomed

thanks

dann
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  08 August 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhrtodaWNtY

Skip to 5:00. That list is a list of all render nodes, to the left is a checkbox for which machines you want to use. So you could pick half and set off a still image, then pick the other half and set off another project, in theory.

I dont have any machines here right now so I cant guarantee you can send off two renders at the same time, but at a minimum you can limit the render to certain clients.
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  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by dann_stubbs: i know i will be testing this first hand soon enough, but curiosity has got me and if you can share the info that is welcomed



just installing R15 now, but so far no sign of a separate serial number/way to install a stand alone TR control a la NET Server, so seems a $4K expense for those who want to run TR on a central computer - ugh.

and/or a floating license at $1k and then the third party render manager to run it (at whatever $ expense that is) and then the reality that you still can't render DR under the third party render manager so really it goes back to above $4K if that is needed (which is what was being pointed to as the reason for killing NET Server)

also 5GB for a TR client only install?! really?

have not launched it yet, but may tonight or tomorrow i suppose and check it out

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  09 September 2013
Most of that will be the content library which projects may reference.
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  09 September 2013
Germany 13.10pm 4th September`13

DING DONG

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  09 September 2013
Hey Dann,

Have you looked at ButterflyNetRender ? They have a new version out with lots of features, supporting C4D and it seems quite a lot cheaper than Thinkbox deadline for Instance. Haven't used it myself, but they seem to have good reference on their site.
 
  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by EricM: Hey Dann,

Have you looked at ButterflyNetRender ? They have a new version out with lots of features, supporting C4D and it seems quite a lot cheaper than Thinkbox deadline for Instance. Haven't used it myself, but they seem to have good reference on their site.


yes BNR is one of the render manages i own. i've had that one for 10 or so years, used to use it with maya

i've been talking with paul (developer) about the new version, he's adding some stuff i've asked for in the new release, but i'm not sure what i'll do about the missing NET issue and R15 as of right now

thanks for the thoughts,

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  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by fireball101: Germany 13.10pm 4th September`13

DING DONG



Wish the UK had a download option. Got a copy of my invoice and called to check shipping date. Apparently as I hadn't renewed my MSA until late in the month I'm not even on the shipping list!

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  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by deepshade: Wish the UK had a download option. Got a copy of my invoice and called to check shipping date. Apparently as I hadn't renewed my MSA until late in the month I'm not even on the shipping list!


Might be the same for me then - I only renewed in August.
However, Macon ul said they were just waiting for more serials from Germany!
Either way, wasn't coming to me this week :/
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  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by kromekat: Might be the same for me then - I only renewed in August.
However, Maxon uk said they were just waiting for more serials from Germany!
Either way, wasn't coming to me this week :/


Same here - although oddly a colleague who upgraded shortly before me has had his for a couple of days now.

I was going to make some kind of joke about how archaic it seems to be sending bits of plastic around with software on it - and serials in the post! How quaint. It seemed odd last release - now it's just a bit embarrassing. Even Adobe are pushing ahead, the install of the latest Photoshop/AE was effortless, around 30 minutes from payment to launch.

Maybe next time...
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  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by fireball101: Germany 13.10pm 4th September`13

DING DONG



Lucky you!
I'm still waiting... :-(
 
  09 September 2013
Originally Posted by ThePriest: Got to admit, this time of year drives me nuts. Do my plugins work in R15? Which ones don't?

Except if the plugin developer did some fishy stuff, C++ plugins that ran in R13 and R14 will still work in R15. Python and COFFEE plugins also still work, except for encrypted Python plugins. Those simply have to be re-encrypted, because the encryption algorithm has changed in R15.

Originally Posted by dann_stubbs: i just HOPE they are REALLY TESTING TR with a realistic number of nodes and 1 to 5 is not realistic in a "team" render to me

We have made tests with a lot of machines, in both physical and virtual networks, and it worked just fine.

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  09 September 2013
I paid up for the r14 plus MSA (including r15) deal (currently on r13). So far I have a package waiting for me at the parcel depot - I assume that is r14 which I won't bother installing, and no sign of r15. I have to say the Adobe approach is a lot more streamlined (whether or not you agree with the licensing model)
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  09 September 2013
The despatch and delivery of R15 seems very staggered and perhaps without proper preparation!? - cant believe its still about serial numbers being generated in Germany - how long does it take!?

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