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Old 04-24-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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Facade Challenge

Hi,
I was hoping to to get some guidance in this latest project. I have got to recreate the
deco on this facade section. I am stumped about how to go about it. I have tried extruding the shapes, lofting splines, box modelling, spline wrap all have not given me what I need.
As you can see these are not just extruded shapes but have a rounded form to them.
I have circled an area I am interested in. The ball shape turns and bends to create the shape.
I am just lost in an effort to replicate this.
Any guidance would be most appreciated and thanks in advance.
Dave
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:09 PM   #2
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Sculpt it.
 
Old 04-24-2013, 08:16 PM   #3
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Hi Jeff, I should have stated that I am working in version 12
 
Old 04-25-2013, 08:41 AM   #4
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EDIT : Are you talking about the top "seashell-like" central piece, or the sorts of swirling vines all around?

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Old 04-25-2013, 09:21 AM   #5
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if you could separate the facade, you could boxmodel the swirling vines, drop them in a symmetry generator and use a flat object behind...
 
Old 04-25-2013, 12:06 PM   #6
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Eric, I am talking about the swirling piece on either side the center element in the circled
area.
Carl, I tried the box modelling approach but it did not give me a good way to transition between
the "vine section" and end going into the "ball shape". Hope this makes sense.
 
Old 04-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #7
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If the object won't be visible too close to the camera, you could try a displacement map.

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Old 04-25-2013, 01:09 PM   #8
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Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply, actually yes in the past I have used displacement maps but in this case it will have to a pretty tight shot to show detail
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #9
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Well then you'll just have to go with good old fashioned poly modeling and then using HyperNurbs. And count yourself lucky you have a symmetry plane. ^^

Check out these models (search for the wireframe renders) to get an idea for the topology.

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/3D-Models/ornament
 
Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #10
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I am trying to box model on a spline wrap but I am not able to end it correctly so it
forms a round shape
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:14 PM   #11
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These kinds of things are very easy to build with splines and sweepNURBS objects; they are easy to tweak and revise this way by altering the base splines.

A quick example:



File:

http://bmc.med.utoronto.ca/wiki/moulding.c4d.zip
 
Old 04-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #12
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I am trying to box model on a spline wrap but I am not able to end it correctly so it forms a round shape


It doesn't always have to be done in one continuous piece all the time. Just make a cylinder or squashed ball for the round end and merge the two together. If it renders ok, it is ok, even if they are separate pieces.

You can also commit the cylinder to editable poly and merge the two by hand or boolean.

You can commit your spline wrap to editable poly too and than use a cylinder as a reference to hand tweak the end points.
 
Old 04-25-2013, 04:23 PM   #13
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Here is a quickie I made using a extruded linear spline for the base outline and then tweaked with regular modeling tools.

The trick is to keep the base cage as simple as possible and wait with detail until you got the base shape right.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:41 PM   #14
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Hi Guys,
Well you have certainly gave me a lot to think about. I wish to send out a sincere thank you
to everyone for their time and ideas. NWoolridge and Aaaron thanks for those files I will be
looking at them closely.
Regards, Dave
 
Old 04-27-2013, 07:19 AM   #15
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For tutorial..... how to make.... check this.

http://viscorbel.com/shop/classic-f...-vol2-ornament/

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