# Problem with multiple effectors having inverted falloff

 06 June 2018 JoelDubin Lard of the pots portfolio Joel Dubin Creative Director MadMicrobe United States Problem with multiple effectors having inverted falloff Hey guys I have a bunch of spheres in a fracture object and want to scale multiple areas of them with effectors using spherical falloff. Running into a bit of an issue (see video--link below). Probably to do with the fact to both effectors being set to invert so they negate one another since outside the falloff they are set to -1. Any help would be great! https://www.dropbox.com/s/kuoekyqfj...ltiple.mp4?dl=0 Thanks Last edited by JoelDubin : 06 June 2018 at 09:39 PM. share quote
 06 June 2018 LukeLetellier Work in Progress   portfolio Luke Letellier Portland, Maine, USA Here's a potential workaround: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ths1ltrdb...alloff.c4d?dl=0 ﻿ - In the Fracture Object --> Transform, set the object scale set to 0.001; technically visible, just really small.  - In the two plain effectors, set the Scale factor to 1000 (with Falloff not inverted). Last edited by LukeLetellier : 06 June 2018 at 10:10 PM. share quote
 06 June 2018 JoelDubin Lard of the pots portfolio Joel Dubin Creative Director MadMicrobe United States HEy Luke--thanks! Yes I was trying it that way before posting. I was going to resort to that as  a last ditch effort but I would prefer to keep it the other way for various reasons if possible. Now Im more determined just to figure it out. share quote
 06 June 2018 JoelDubin Lard of the pots portfolio Joel Dubin Creative Director MadMicrobe United States I had the brilliant idea of ditching the spherical falloff and use source falloff instead, replacing the location of the plain effectors with  individual sphere primitives, and then putting them into a connect object and using the connect object as the source. It WORKS--however only the shell of the spheres effect the clones (the poly surface) --not the inside volume of the spheres itself. Will keep playing. share quote
 06 June 2018 noseman 3D nosey   Athanasios Pozantzis C4D Evangelist & fanboy - Certified C4D Trainer Noseman productions Toronto, Canada First of all, don't invert the falloffs. Just set the Scale of the Effector to -1, and then change the "Transform Mode" (above the Position Value) to "Absolute". Now you have the clones you need at the sale you need, BUT the rest are still there. How do we get rid of them? Add another Plain effector, and turn off all parameters, and turn On "Visibility". Also, change the Min and Max (Effector Tab) to 0%, and make this the first Effector in the List Finally, just set the other two effectors to have "Visibility" ON. File is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/do74kopw4...0Scale.c4d?dl=0 __________________ Follow me on Twitter@nosemangr - Watch me on Noseman's Youtube Channel share quote
 06 June 2018 JoelDubin Lard of the pots portfolio Joel Dubin Creative Director MadMicrobe United States Thank you!! I tried absolute, and was thinking the solution might have had to do with changing settings between effectors but it wasnt obviously clear what the correct combination of settings was so I was sort of just clicking around. This is great. Will try ASAP. share quote
 06 June 2018 noseman 3D nosey   Athanasios Pozantzis C4D Evangelist & fanboy - Certified C4D Trainer Noseman productions Toronto, Canada Originally Posted by JoelDubin: Thank you!! I tried absolute, and was thinking the solution might have had to do with changing settings between effectors but it wasnt obviously clear what the correct combination of settings was so I was sort of just clicking around. This is great. Will try ASAP. The technique I use is: "click random settings and combine them with a good idea". Most times it works :-) __________________ Follow me on Twitter@nosemangr - Watch me on Noseman's Youtube Channel share quote
 06 June 2018 JoelDubin Lard of the pots portfolio Joel Dubin Creative Director MadMicrobe United States Originally Posted by noseman: The technique I use is: "click random settings and combine them with a good idea". Most times it works :-) So we are on the same page then. share quote
 06 June 2018 noseman 3D nosey   Athanasios Pozantzis C4D Evangelist & fanboy - Certified C4D Trainer Noseman productions Toronto, Canada always :-) See you next month... hopefully! __________________ Follow me on Twitter@nosemangr - Watch me on Noseman's Youtube Channel share quote

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