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Old 09-06-2013, 11:01 PM   #16
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Actually, it'll be very easy--you need to think outside of the rigid manner your habits has forced you to think in. All you have to do, is add a very slight gradation to each blade so that they visually differentiate from each other, but the average value is s still roughly the same as the horizontal strips. Try it.
 
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Actually, it'll be very easy--you need to think outside of the rigid manner your habits has forced you to think in. All you have to do, is add a very slight gradation to each blade so that they visually differentiate from each other, but the average value is s still roughly the same as the horizontal strips. Try it.


Good idea, thanks. Hope I can pull it off

 
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There you go. You got it.
 
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Looks good--now you just have to apply this to the whole image, and it'll look much more natural.
 
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Can't decide if this looks crap

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Old 09-09-2013, 06:42 PM   #22
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Decided to completely re-do the grass but encountered a problem. The blades are becoming too small to discern individually. No idea how to give the impression of grass for all that blank space up to the horizon


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Old 09-13-2013, 01:42 AM   #23
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New grass

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This looks far better than the original version you started with. Looks like you solved the grass problem too. In the future, just scale your objects properly so you don't run into the same problem. Learning perspective really helps with that. Andrew Loomis's "Successful Drawing" is a really good book that shows you how to scale objects properly, as well as various perspective topics such as depicting people, objects, environments from various angles properly.
 
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Thanks for the help so far, really glad I made the thread.

Think the clouds look too simple? I'm just staring at them all the time wondering what to do with them.
 
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I just flipped the image horizontally and it looks awful. Is that a common occurance?
 
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Yes, it's perfectly normal. That is why I teach my students to always flip their work horizontally as soon as they get used to seeing it that way, so they can "refresh" their objectivity and spot problems they couldn't see before.

The reason why we see a difference is because our brains have inherent perception biases (it may have something to do with the fact we have a dominant hand, or use one side of the brain more), and when we flip the image, all of our "blind spots" from those biases are revealed.

Your image is fairly symmetrical, so it shouldn't look drastically different when flipped. In asymmetrical compositions the problem is a lot more severe.

The clouds look pretty good, and much better compared to the first version. You do have three almost parallel edges with the top three cloud shapes though, and that's always bad for a natural looking formation.
 
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In dire need of a critique on this:

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What will you be using the image for? Knowing the purpose it needs to serve will help with having a concrete set of criteria when critiquing.

Overall, the lighting on the mountains show there's directional light coming from the left, but the rest of the image doesn't support that. You have to be consistent in your lighting.

Those jagged darker values lining the side of the dirt road looks a bit odd, as if they are elongated cast shadows from the grass blades. If you are trying to convey the road is uneven, don't use such prominent jagged shapes. Use more organic shapes that have more variations.
 
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What will you be using the image for? Knowing the purpose it needs to serve will help with having a concrete set of criteria when critiquing.

Overall, the lighting on the mountains show there's directional light coming from the left, but the rest of the image doesn't support that. You have to be consistent in your lighting.

Those jagged darker values lining the side of the dirt road looks a bit odd, as if they are elongated cast shadows from the grass blades. If you are trying to convey the road is uneven, don't use such prominent jagged shapes. Use more organic shapes that have more variations.


It's for nothing in particular. I'm going to put a character on the path walking forwards with a bag over their shoulder. That's if I can draw it, which evidenced by my previous posts is unlikely.

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