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Old 09-11-2012, 12:26 PM   #16
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update.
Tested some cloth on the figure I am looking for something organic transparant.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:43 AM   #17
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I think the clothing n the figure has little meaning or impact on the actual image, with the figure being so small in the actual composition of the image. It has absolute no impact on the rest of the image so really i don't see any point in testing any cloth on her besides doing some design shapes or testing a few values. I am no expert in image making or anything like that, but I think you should concentrate more on the actual composition around the figure, and emphasis more detail, and design the shapes around what is happening in the foreground middle and background etc. At the moment there is no separation between any parts of the image. Then you can start to make a focal point with the contrast of values etc. Is the focal point the lady in the image? Even if she is, i really dont think you need to worry about doing some transparent cloth test on her, and she is so small in the actual image. she could just be a a shape design with value contrasts in her if you want agasint the background design.

Like I said i am no expert and just trying to give my input on my limited knowledge.
 
Old 09-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #18
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thx for the comment.
On this scale the clothing doesn't seem to important but I'am working five times bigger on the original.
Nevertheless I think I should not be focussing like you said on detailing cloths and focus on the bigger picture.
I am doing it because i am not entiry convinced of the character itself. If I would be critical about my work I could say that the pose is playing it save and it doesn't really fits in the background. Given the fact that she will be the main focus this is important.
Regarding the bg I have been struggling with seperating forgroung middleground and bg. I made the trees on the left a bit smaller to send them more in the bg. I know I will be able to change a lot with shadows and adjusment layers to help to focus on her allthought I haven't doen it yet.
Well I guess these are all the problems you run in when you just start with it, whitout a clear drawing in the beginning. .

update. bigger size:

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Old 09-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #19
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been on holiday. New lunch crunch.
looking further on the cloth/dress.

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Old 09-25-2012, 11:42 AM   #20
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working further on the dress. I am looking for an organic feel, not there yet.
most layers are turned of at the moment.

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Old 09-26-2012, 12:18 PM   #21
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I have been working further on the cloth. I like the way some details look and feel alltought I'll have to tone it down a lot to get the figure back in. Also her right arms keeps bugging me tried some different pose this time.


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Old 09-26-2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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too much black, especially in background. Try to add some depth by making the furthest places more lighter and blue. This should work I promise
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:30 PM   #23
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worked further on the cloth: toned it down a bit. I think I'll have to do some more.

@IFJ Well I kinde liked the blacks allthought I kno it isn't correct. But as you are the second who mentioned it I thought I give it a try. I does create depth but also gives the impression that the forest ends a bit further. Anyway I'l have to find something that works.




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Old 10-01-2012, 08:56 PM   #24
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Here is an update:
detailing and also layered the different trees in background and front. I have to create some more interesting lighting yet and other stuff. And the right arm isn't ok yet...
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:01 PM   #25
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Here is an update. I just finished my other http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=132&t=1072220 so I've been working on this on evenings too sometimes. I have been detailing the tree and some corrections to the background. Instead of flying fish I thought I make some little goblins which I sketched first. And tried to color. I expected it would go better as I wouldn't start from scratch. So i'll perhaps try to make a base in zbrush.


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Old 10-09-2012, 08:04 PM   #26
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here is an update. To improve the depth I made the threes in the back much smaller. I also added a small river and waterfall which creates a plane which makes reading depth easier. I think I should ad some different color. Anyway still going on need to finish this one because I want to do something else . But came to far to quit now.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:09 AM   #27
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something about the left arm from (viewers left, her right arm) seems off. Perhaps it the shoulder is placed a bit high or the arm is too large? a bit of both? not sure. the forest looks awesome,
 
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thx for the comment argiveajax,
Yeah there is still something weird about the arm. I made it smaller and rotated it a bit. but I think the problems lies with the pose and the insertion in the shoulder. I think it would be a very difficult pose to maintain in reallife.There are some perspective issues that needs to be resolved also.
Started to kinda finalize the background. Like I said there other stuff I wanna do, perhaps a challenge . but must finish this first.
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allmost there...
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make water reflections!
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