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  06 June 2013
Blah.... Heres hoping amd pull their finger out and release something decent this decade...
Matthew O'Neill
  06 June 2013
I share that hope, but I have too much of an investment into CUDA to consider giving it up.

I have limited (very, very limited) experience with OCL, and despite my closet socialist desperately wanting an open standard to prevail, the level of maturity, availability and accessibility of CUDA and nVIDIA's reliability in many regards, even if they weren't completely dominating the performance segment to begin with, would make considering AMD not a short term proposition.

At least the push for competition would be nice.
Fingers crossed for mid-gen 9ks.

The Titan -is- a nice card though, if only it was a couple hundred bucks less (it's 1.2-1.3k here in Oz) I would have probably bought one already. The crippling of the 780 is a severe disappointment though.
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  06 June 2013
Thanks for sharing the results of that test, very useful information! Can find titans around 730 so they're not that much of a leap from the 780s at 550 in the UK.
  06 June 2013
I ended up getting one. Will have a better chance to test when I'll get back to some GPU centric projects.
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  06 June 2013
Guys, Im almost buying a new budget GPU.

I was going with the hd 7950 since it had more raw power, and also because autodesk recommends the hd 7970, so I thought the 7950 would be fine too.

However, after reading what you guys say, it seems it's still not the time for buying amd stuff.

Is that really true? Will I get issues running new version of maya with an hd 7950, lets say?
  06 June 2013
Compared to a few years ago things got a lot better, and in dx11 the differences are small (we're talking reliability, performance for money AMD/ATI has always done very well), I do still routinely hear of glitches with AMD cards which are almost unheard of with nVIDIA cards (especially classic viewport, transparency drawing and so on).

I think a lot of the stereotype is an old reputation they aren't quite able to shake off when it comes to 3D DCC with Autodesk products, things are better, but they don't seem 100% reliable all the time yet.

Personally I'm hoping AMD will do well, but am not buying yet. Even if I didn't have an investment in CUDA development (and I do), I would probably still have bought a Titan. A GTX 580 can be had really cheap and still does well with Maya if you're on a 250-350 budget.

This is mostly hearsay though, I haven't owned an AMD in quite a while, and the last time I benched one before purchasing was at least a couple years ago (when it still had the horrible selection lag issue which, from what I hear, is gone now).
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  06 June 2013
I heard also that with recent drivers, all possible issues with amd and 3d apps would be solved.

Anyway, I was thinking about the gtx 660 ti. It scores lower than the hd 7950, probably due to that nvidia crippling thing and lower ram.

So you would still trade the so called nvidia reliability for higher performance?
  06 June 2013
Personally I'd never, ever, trade reliability for performance. Nothing kills productivity like glitches and latency.
Sheer draw and fillrate performance mean absolutely nothing when it can take up to 10 seconds just to select a heavy mesh (this particular issue allegedly now solved, but just for the sake of example).

The 6xx cards are also crippled only when it comes to DP (double precision computation soft tuned down to 1/24th), it's not something cropping up much when you're just modelling and animating in Maya to be honest. The 7xx are crippled too, but not as badly, the Titan is fully DP capable like any Kepler quadro would be.

I would at least stretch it to a 670 though, that can be found for the same price of a 7950, at least here.
I would also buy 2nd hand, with the 780 out a lot of 670 and 680s that are less than a year old are cropping up for cheap on eBay and local websites.
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  06 June 2013
Alright think Im going with nvidia than.

But something curious is that autodesk does not recommend the gtx 670, but only the 660 and 680.

Why is that? Are there any real causes behind that or they just forgot to add the 670?
  06 June 2013
I think it's just because it came out later. For a while the foundry had the 680 certified for Mari but not the quadro K5000, go figure
The 670 is exactly the same as the 680 qualities wise, just the amounts change.

If you have a place that takes returns you could still give the AMD card a try.
I feel I have to re-iterate I'm talking reading and hearsay here, not personal experience. You might want to prod around a bit more.

I can tell you the 670 and 680 have no issues with Maya, and haven't had in many driver releases though, that much I know first hand.
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  07 July 2013
I'm building a new Animation lab (be running Maya, Mudbox, Cinema 4D, Photoshop, Illustrator) and could really use some advice for a GPU. I don't think I can really spend more than $1k which pretty much limits me to a Titan or less. Would the Titan be a better choice for these apps than something like the Quadro k4000? I need to figure out the build for the rest of the machine as well but I should probably start a new thread.
  07 July 2013
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