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  12 December 2006
Eon (3D Scene) Entry: theuns

theuns is entered in the "Eon Challenge" update: View Challenge Page

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  12 December 2006
Concept Sketch or 3D pre-visualization: The 3rd Chamer

Hi everybody,

I know I'm pretty late with this entry but I really like the theme and decided to give it a go.

I loved the curved/hanging mason structures and the cable suspension which really caught my imagination.

So here is the first concept idea... already have some ideas to change it which I will in the next few days...

This is a pastel conversion of a 3d pre-vid but the conversion gives you a better idea of the layout/design...

The scale isn't right since the structures themselves can be up to 10km according to the scene description so I feel the cylinder diameter is way to small...

Anyway... thoughts and comments are welcome :)
  12 December 2006
Hey theuns, the only thing I can suggest to you right now, is that you must start working very hard mate... your idea has potencial, but hurry up and good luck.
  12 December 2006
Tnx Caludio, definately will
  12 December 2006
Concept Sketch or 3D pre-visualization: Update: Concept sketch 2

Eon - Concept 2 notes

Update 2: I've expanded on the first idea a bit. Changed the scale from the first one and envisage this to change more later to the extent that you won't see the side walls or the ceiling anymore. The ceiling will be hidden in clouds and their might only be a hint of side walls in the far distance, hidden in a depth blurr haze or fog filter.

In this version, to illustrate the scale of the buildings, I've added a small shuttle with some temporary figures in the foreground. Beyond the foreground you can see several rectangular buldings with another shuttle taking off from the middle roof. I wanted to put a shuttle on the dangling buildings above the surface buildings but it would not have been visible because a dangling building or a Dangler is about 5 times the size of a rectangular structure. And then as you can see, the Danglers are hanging below The Arch which houses a city in itself. This is one of the 'arched structures fully ten kilometers long' mentioned in the Thistledown - Third Chamber description. The Aanglers are the 'golf tees' structures as well as the 'hung buildings from them in graceful curves'.

I still want to experiment with the Danglers, perhaps making them rectangulers hanging down instead of 'golf tees' and have the 'golf tees' stretching up to the atmosphere beynd the Arches.

Another idea I want to try is to change the current suspension cables and have them curve at a more shallow angle from the walls to hang more buildings on. The current Danglers are mobile and can be slid along the central cables running from cap-to-cap.

This will be the last 'pencil' concept image. Then next ones will be low resolution 3d visualizations.

I'm using trueSpace 5.2 for the modeling and rendering but I think I might use either Vue d'Esprit 3.1 or Bryce 4 for the terrain, unless I only go for a city scape with mountains in the back ground. But Bryce and Vue will give me better atmosphere and cloud results than trueSpace which is more modelling oriented.

Any suggestion and ideas on the above mentioned, please?
  01 January 2007
Modeling: Tower City

This is one of those 10km high curving towers... The idea I have is to host entire cities on each successive platform on the tower...

No final texturing or lighting effects here...

To follow would be and scene view with the tower in perspective...
  01 January 2007
Modeling: Tower City

Another close-up test view of the city buildings on a disc tower platform...
  01 January 2007
Modeling: Tower City

Scene test with the Disc Towers included...
  01 January 2007
Modeling: Tower City

Scene test wire frame view... had to bring the detail way down to get into the 150k size limit but you can make out whats what...

The tower will be a distant view so it won't have a lot of detail in them... gonna move onto the rectangular buildings for more close-up detail and then redesign the cable suspension system...
  01 January 2007
Hello Theuns ,hoe gaan dit.

Ek is bly jy het die tyd gevind om hier deelte neem.Jy gaan moet spark om klaar te kry want die tyd is min.
Watse sagteware is dit wat jy daar gebruik?

Hello Theuns ,how are you.

I'm glad to see that you found the time to join in.You will have to spark if you want to finnish because time is short.
What software are you using?
Looks good so far ,keep it up dude.
  01 January 2007
Hi, Theuns:
Your initial steps look good. One small criticism, though: the "down" direction in the cylindrical chambers is the radial direction. The Stone rotates to produce centrifugal gravity. I really like the sweeping curves of your arches and the platforms holding buildings, though. Best of luck to you in this contest, and I hope you finish on time.

P.S. Kudos on using TrueSpace. I got my start using Ray Dream Studio, which was similar to TrueSpace. A good artist can do great things with any 3D package; more expensive tools do not necessarily make for a better final image.
  01 January 2007
Haai daar SONIC-X, ja ek sal moet vinnig maak maar ek is amper daar. Ek gebruik trueSpace 5.1 SP2 van Caligari.

Hi there SONIC-X, yes ,I will have to hurry up but I'm almost there. I'm using trueSpace 5.1 SP2 from Caligari.

Hi vmulligan, tnx for the comment but I'm not sure what you mean by 'the "down" direction in the cylindrical chambers is the radial direction.' Could you elaborate a bit more?

Btw. I've added hanging cables from the side walls to the center cables from which to hang buildings from... will add the progress soon and then do some lighting and texture tests for my milestones before starting the final image renders....
  01 January 2007
Modeling: Cable buildings

Added the cable hanging buildings... next I'll focus on the shading and lighting before adding effects and final composition...

tick tock, tick tock ... ;)
  01 January 2007
Hi, Theuns:

I mean that the cylinder isn't like a big cave in which you can only stand at the bottom. The curving walls of the cylinder are like a floor no matter where you stand. You could run all the way around the cylinder if you so chose.

Imagine a ball on the end of the rope. If you hold the rope and spin very fast, the ball extends out horizontally as far as it can go. It "feels" a centrifugal force pushing it outwards. The same principle is often used in science fiction to produce artificial gravity, including in Greg Bear's book. The Stone spins, so anything inside "feels" like it's pushed outwards from the spin axis.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your designs. All the best.

Last edited by vmulligan : 01 January 2007 at 07:50 PM.
  01 January 2007
Shading (Textured and lit): Cable building shading/textures

Alright, for the buildings, I've used a basic white and grey image, repeating it 5 times on the U and V reps with a .4 luminescence to make it nice and white and a slight .2 shininess...

then added a image bump map of the same image with a .1 amplitude so that the image is not too distorted but still irregular enough for some variety...

These hanging uildings will be part of the background composition so it does not need a lot of detail...
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