Do raytracers keep track of the current IOR?

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Old 11 November 2013   #1
Do raytracers keep track of the current IOR?

I've been working with 3D graphics for nearly 15 years and whenever I find some time to mess with rendering I still struggle with the simple quest to render wine in a wine glass. I think what confuses me is that I don't fully understand what a ray-tracer does and doesn't track for each ray in a scene. I use to think that the current ior wasn't tracked. A ray would hit a surface and bend the ray as if the current IOR was 1.0. When the ray hit another surface it would again bend the ray as if it's current ior was 1.0. However, I eventually came to a conclusion that the current IOR is tracked. E.g. if the ray goes from 1.0 to 1.5, then hits a surface with an ior 1.3, it would then make and adjustment for 1.5 going to 1.3.

Then this morning my life was turned upside down again when I stumbled across the wine glass scenario in the 3Ds Max documentation. Half way down the page . They say you need to set the ior of the wine to 0.8 in order to simulate the ray going from 1.5 to 1.3. If that's the case then what they're suggesting is that the raytracer doesn't understand that the rays current value is 1.5. This idea of precalculating/determining what "interfaces" exist in a scene seems flawed if that really is the case. In a static scene it might make sense, but in a dynamic situation you can't predetermine what to surfaces will interact with one another.

Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks!

Nathaniel
 
Old 11 November 2013   #2
The problem here is the precision of the render engine and models.

For light to enter from 1.0 to 1.5 is easy, but to then transition from 1.5 to 1.3 would require the two models to be perfectly in contact with each other, any gap or intersection create a situation where either the bend would go from 1.5 to 1.0 and then 1.0 to 1.3, or, it would go from 1.5 to 1.3 to 1.5 again an even worse result. Some render engines build in a special exception for this to work properly where your safe bet is to simply make sure the geometries do in fact intersect, and then the engine will have an exception to break its rules, and see that when it enters the 1.3 surface, it shouldn't bend again when hitting the intersected 1.5 side. Modo and C4D do this for sure, not sure what other render engines do.
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Old 11 November 2013   #3
All IORs are actually relative. When you say a material has an IOR of some number, that usually means the amount of refraction you get entering that surface from a vacuum or from plain air. It's not that the ray has a current value, it's that the refraction is what happens coming out of one medium and into another.

The listed IOR of air is just above 1, but if you had a bubble of air under water, you'd want the bubble boundary surface (where you enter the air from the water) to have an IOR of 1/1.333 = 0.75. Raytracers may be clever about reversing the refraction for back-faces where rays exit a surface, but otherwise when you put just a single surface between two areas it's up to you to describe the refraction you want at a surface in terms of the relationship between what medium rays are supposed to be leaving vs. what medium they are supposed to be entering. The raytracer only works with the surfaces, it doesn't know that different "volumes" are supposed to be filled with different things in this context.

There's an old tutorial, still on-line, that I think was the clearest explanation I've seen for this idea. http://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Te.../LWGlass-2.html he sets up separate surfaces for entry and exit refraction to go into a glass jar that's mostly full of honey, in and out of each medium.

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Old 11 November 2013   #4
jeremybirn, thanks for the information. Thinking in terms of relative versus absolute does make more sense, but I'm still surprised by the answer. Specifying the relative ior doesn't allow for fluids to render properly when animated between surfaces, for example water surrounded by air then landing in a glass cup. I guess if you were really that concerned about the accuracy, then you could animate the IOR.

Hey LucentDreams, I appreciate the comment. It wasn't the modeling technique that confused me as much as why an IOR of 0.8, but it is interesting to know some renders try to handle that case.
 
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