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Old 07-29-2006, 09:31 PM   #61
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Opposing Curves and Gestures

Well I decided to try things out...

The torso muscle drawing, I did 2 days ago but the one on the left I did after reading the Opposing Curves article. Obviously this wasn't going to lead anywhere, trying too many things at once, learning the muscle structure, minding the curves... hehehe silly ol' meh.


So I remembered I had stumbled on a thread called "gesture drawing something" and I looked it up and found some interesting stuff made by xillion and others.

Tried some of those:
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The first sheet was all crappy but I started to get the hang of it (allthough these are still far far from perfect) and while drawing I got really exciting so I thought I'd try it with a real model, as my beloved partner was in the sofa watching a movie...

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Ofcourse she isn't used to being drawn at all but I think she did pretty well.
Each of these gesture drawings took about 2min, except for the last one maybe 6-7min (it was quite dark.

This is like a true revelation to me lol. I'm gonna do a lot more of these. I think it will serve my proportional skills and at the same time allow me to keep those opposing curves in mind without having to make things too complicated.

Excellent!

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Old 07-30-2006, 02:13 PM   #62
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More gestures

Here are some more gestures from Rubens' work

1) De aanbidding der herders (Adoration of the Shepherds)
1608 oil on canvas
St-Pauluskerk Antwerpen
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2) Annunciation
1609-1610 oil on canvas
Rubenshuis, Antwerpen
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3) Dance of Italian Villagers
1636 oil on wood
Museo del Prado, Madrid
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the last one was hard omg. What I do notice is that for fat people like these villagers, they are damn well flexible

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Old 07-30-2006, 05:14 PM   #63
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And a couple more, digital ones. I should use my tablet more to draw. I loose the feeling too quickly

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Old 07-31-2006, 07:15 PM   #64
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Couldn't get anything decent done today.
Too tired.

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quick version of head 79.

Here's the plan: I'll try to doodle a bit the rest of the week (some busy days ahead at work) and make a complete piece on saturday. On sunday I'm going to Antwerp to see Rubens' work in front of me. Really looking forward to that!

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Old 08-01-2006, 10:42 PM   #65
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Hi Johan,



Those figure drawings are very useful exercises. You might want to add a ground plane and try toplace the feet properly. Structure your figures from the pelvis and the ribcage. Study how the legs are inserted and how the shoulders move. And keep on practicing.

The anatomy studies are looking good - nice rendering.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:01 PM   #66
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Master copy: Robert Chang - Mood1

I was playing with the painter brush creator and trying different stuff, because I wanted to create a hard rounded brush, like most artists seem to prefer over a soft brush like airbrush. After an hour or so I finally got what I wanted so I thought I'd start on a recreation of a masterpiece.
I remembered how deeply impressed I was by Robert Changs work and how he had put a walkthrough on his website of this piece called Mood1. Ok it's a more contemporary masterpiece but that's not really an issue I think. Drawing isn't the only thing I want to learn

One thing I noticed is that the settings of my 2nd monitor, on which I keep my reference, is a lot different than my main monitor. This results in rather saturated colors sometimes. I'm gonna have to fix this asap :s

Also, I'm not going for a 100% likeness here (I'm not even able to get anywhere near the quality of the original) but learning basic painting techniques.

here's step 1: color blocking

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Update tomorrow

I'm eager to do some grayscale headstudies as well now. Too bad I don't have much time at the mo :s

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Old 08-05-2006, 08:33 PM   #67
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Update

Well, it's just trial and error basically. I gave up on trying to match the colors exactly. I hope I'll get better at this though.

Haven't touched the head yet. Trying to get the proportions of the body right. Thought I had the arm finally how it's supposed to be, but it's still not right. The arm needs to go a bit higher. Her behind is too low as well.

Comments appreciated as usual

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That hand will be a challenge as well

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Old 08-06-2006, 07:32 PM   #68
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Head study + Rubens day

Donnow if this works for you peepz but for me it certainly does: after scanning some lineart I immediately see lots of mistakes. With head 87 as shown below his right eye is badly positioned (way too high), his mouth must move as well.

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This one obviously needs more work. I dragged down the levels after scanning coz these lines were drawn very lightly (2H pencil). When I started I hadn't decided if I wanted to switch to ballpen later on. I'm gonna finish it in pencil though.
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I was in Antwerp today. Visited The Royal Museum for Fine Art, The OLV Cathedral, The St-Paulus church, The St-Jacobs Church. I wanted to see as much Rubens work as I could in real. And I must tell ya, OMFG!!!
I am still in shock. Paintings like "Assumption of the Virgin", "Adoration of the Shepherds", " Descent from the Cross" and particularly "Christ on the Cross between the Two Thieves", " Raising of the Cross" and " The Adoration of the Magi" have left a deep impression on me.
I can tell you that these paintings look great in a book or on a website, but when you're standing in front of them, I felt sooooo small... I was at his grave after seeing these masterpieces and if someone would have asked me something at that very moment (anything) I don't think I would have been able to say a single word.
I expected to be impressed, but since I'm not religious at all, I didn't expect to be that impressed.

I also so work from Antoon Van Dijk, Caravaggio, and many more from the 16th and 17th century.

I'm going back to Antwerp that's for sure (the Rubenshouse was closed)

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Old 08-07-2006, 08:24 PM   #69
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Updates

Well I'll try to work a bit traditional and digital each day.

Here are today's updates:

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As you can see I had to fall back to drawing lines to be able to get the proportions right. I started this by blocking colors just like that, but I think this technique only works if you throughly know proportions, in other words if you are very experienced.

Traditional:
finally got the blending sticks back on the desk after seeing some awesome shaded pencil drawings in the anatomy forums. When using them, I realized I had missed that!

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More updates soon!

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:58 AM   #70
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Hey Johan!

A lot of new work here around!
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the last one was hard omg. What I do notice is that for fat people like these villagers, they are damn well flexible

Lol , but your studies are fine, it seems you're getting the proportions quite well!
I really admire Robert Chang's work too, so I'm very interested to watch your progress with your version of Mood1, the starting looks good to me , let's see updates soon.

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Hi Johan,

The last drawing is looking good. Indeed blending gives some fine results. I'm curious to see how this turns out.
Something strange is going on with the right elbow in the painting. I would think the ulna would stick out more - so the upper arm doesn't seem so long.
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Old 08-09-2006, 08:05 PM   #72
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If only I had more time to draw n paint. I'd make much more progress
I'm working a lot on getting the proportions right. Made some progress already but still room for a lot of improvement
Thanks for the support

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You're right it does look awkward, unfinished as it is. I'll have to create enough depth to make you believe the forearm isn't way shorter than the upper arm
I think it's what Mr Chang did so well in this piece, creating believable depth with a minimum of color changement.
I'm making slow progress on the pencil drawing due to hardly no time (overtime at work argh)

Had about an hour today to practice a bit so here's the first series of grayscales. Refs from the 15min sketchatlon thread (so also done at max 15min).

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More to come soon so stay tuned

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Old 08-10-2006, 08:05 AM   #73
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I think I never took the time to actually tell you how much I like the torso side view drawing on top of the page that I admire everytime I look at your updates...


decided to do it now...

I like it





still watching what you are doing in here...!

 
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Thanks Mu. I should do more of those (I should do more of everything but argh lacking time)

Some facial muscle study I did at work today. Please excuse the crappy scan. It looks totally different in real, but you get the idea...

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Anyway, hope y'all like it

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Old 08-12-2006, 10:39 AM   #75
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Last study looks nice. Good haching!
I know the feeling when the scanner takes away all the subtleties :( keep on going!
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