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Old 11-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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Tropes vs Women vs State of the business

So, more and more studios starts to downsize. To me, it's a matter of changing production and broaden demographics for the products. The largest growing market are probably the female platform gamers. There is a lot of talk about the hate Anita Sarkeesian received when simply suggesting that games (platform games, not casual games) where not selling to women to the extent it could. I guess most of the hate came from ordinary gamers.
What about the game developers out there, what is your view on it? What is your personal opinion on how to make platform games that appeal to the average female gamers?
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:37 PM   #2
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I pity the fool who tries to speak on behalf of women in this thread.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:40 PM   #3
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Noone needs to speak on behalf of anyone. I wonder what peoples though on the subject are. Have they considered the large potential in the market? Are studios or individuals having an ongoing conversation on the topic? Have Anitas efforts mattered at all?
(I'm just taking for granted that the flame war won't be a fact from industry professionals )
 
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Never heard of that individual.
My daughter says gaming is mostly for male nerds.
She never heard of that individual either.
 
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Are you working in the video game industry?
 
Old 11-02-2013, 02:53 PM   #6
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I think it is an interesting topic. What do you think specifically appeals to women in video games? And what don't women like in most modern games that they would want a genre that targets them specifically?
 
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Have Anitas efforts mattered at all?

Its made her a lot of money from people who can't think for themselves, so yes.
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My aunt was a United States Marine Corps officer for 4 years in the early 1980s. I don't really listen to people who talk about "girl stuff" and "guy stuff".

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Its made her a lot of money from people who can't think for themselves, so yes.


From what I've gathered about this individual she is a shallow phoney who doesn't deserve the attention. Just another media huckster that low information types will be taken in by.

With so many real feminist issues like genital mutilation and others that matter, she is hardly pursuing a noble cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPIu3sDkEw
 
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You guys know that there are plenty of women in the armed services right? Many are trained marksmen (markswomen?)
 
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You guys know that there are plenty of women in the armed services right? Many are trained marksmen (markswomen?)


Oh yes, government paid killers are good role models.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:55 PM   #12
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From what I've gathered about this individual she is a shallow phoney who doesn't deserve the attention. Just another media huckster that low information types will be taken in by.

With so many real feminist issues like genital mutilation and others that matter, she is hardly pursuing a noble cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPIu3sDkEw


My question remains, are you working in the video game industry?
 
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Oh yes, government paid killers are good role models.


I guess. Here are the statistics in case you are interested:

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More than 200,000 women are in the active-duty (US) military, including 69 generals and admirals.


List of a few noteworthy countries by total active duty taken from wikipedia:


France 352,771
United Kingdom 197,780
Germany 182,927
Spain 128,013


So the US has more women in active duty than several European nations have total active duty.

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Old 11-02-2013, 04:07 PM   #14
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My question remains, are you working in the video game industry?


I have in the past. What I am employed with now is really none of your business.
I suggest you stick to your socio political topic unless you really need to bridge away from it now that your hero has been exposed as a manufacturer of feigned outrage.
 
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I think it is an interesting topic. What do you think specifically appeals to women in video games? And what don't women like in most modern games that they would want a genre that targets them specifically?


I am in no way a specialist on what the majority of women in gaming wants. I have been an avid gamer for a long time and I work with marketing. That is kinda why I ask this question. I want to know if there is an ongoing discussion on how to reach the large demographic that is women when it comes to platform games, amongst the developers and game designers.

(And for ANYONE who goes on to bashing Anita, just stop it. It is offtopic and more importantly it shows very clearly an unprofessional attitude. If you wonder what all this stems from, here is a talk about it; http://tedxwomen.org/speakers/anita-sarkeesian-2/ )
 
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