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  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by Crotalis: For me, the only drawbacks were that there was no way to view off-line, and the fact that


A new offline option is so close! We're previewing it over on our blog: http://www.digitaltutors.com/dtlabs/?p=9673

We can't wait to have this option for members to learn.
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  10 October 2013
Honestly, even your Creative development series (some of which i have watched from start to finish) are still very basic, and it is only extremely rare that output quality of some of the Creative development series gets on par with today's industry standards. It still looks pretty weak compared to something like Gnomon Workshop.

While it is explained how to get to the output eventually, it is usually nothing new to the experienced user, as mostly common basic techniques are explained. While in professional tutorials, you often learn a new efficient and creative workflows how to achieve large-scale result efficiently, often in a procedural manner and with a lot of flexibility.

I have bought and watched quite a few Gnomon Workshop tutorials and it was not rare for me to see something and say "Wow, this will be a great addition to my workflow that will improve my efficiency and/or quality a bit", but while watching DT creative development series, i do not think i ever experienced the same.

So to wrap it up... Sure you can hire some experienced industry specialist, but they also have to show some experienced industry workflows... and most of them will not give that up very easily...
 
  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by Digital-Tutors: What a thread!
Though it wasn't intended, this is great feedback for us to all look into. For those that were bored to tears, we owe you a pint - or another beverage of choice.
- The DT Team


Sarcastic, aren't we?
Better focus on raising up the quality of your material, eh?
(just a suggestion, I for one most likely won't be your client again)
 
  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by McNistor: Sarcastic, aren't we?
Better focus on raising up the quality of your material, eh?
(just a suggestion, I for one most likely won't be your client again)


Genuinely no sarcasm here. This post had plenty we can take back to the team to address. If we only listen to good things, that's when you get lost. Here was honest feedback and what we can work on and some things we're already trying to address.
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  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by Rawalanche: Honestly, even your Creative development series (some of which i have watched from start to finish) are still very basic, and it is only extremely rare that output quality of some of the Creative development series gets on par with today's industry standards.


Fair point. It might be a good chance to audit the content again. A tough part is knowing 'advanced training' is relative to who is looking at it. What's advanced to some may be easy to others. We're trying to figure out a way to best categorize and communicate the difficulty of a course you're looking at.
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  10 October 2013
I'll be calling you guys at DT for a new t-shirt soon. My current t-shirt is getting holes burned into the armpits.

As soon as I get this other studio to invest in your plans, I'll be hitting you guys up for some swag

As a Creative Director and former pro in the trenches, I use DT to get my rookies up to speed so I don't have to go over basics with them. Usually, even the basic concepts, deliver enough instruction that our talent can move onto the actual assignment and apply or modify a technique to complete a task. We do not use DT to learn how to do something from start to finish, but more as a nudge to help out with techniques and basic workflows.

It will be integrated into any of the studios that I work and/or consult. Unless I stop receiving my swag.....
 
  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by Digital-Tutors: This one is painful to hear - mostly as an injustice to our guest tutors.

We can do a better job at communicating some of the professional projects our guest tutors have worked on. They are quite impressive (http://www.digitaltutors.com/11/tutors.php). We have also taken the feedback on who our members like and focused on bringing them back for more courses.


ooh I haven't checked that out yet. Do the video tutorials from your "top professionals working at renowned studios" demonstrate tips and techniques on how to create industry standards quality work like these?:
http://eat3d.com/maya_portraits
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/st...4/#.UmsDvPmTj6A

If so, I would love to become a Digital Tutors member again. Please let me know
 
  10 October 2013
Everybody has different expectations so meeting them is not easy. I think DT does a good job especially for introductionary stuff. I wanted to go deeper in houdini and compared prices and the houdini tutorial contents. I went with another online tutorial provider. (Cmivfx)

It just depends on what you look for.

Plus I wish tutorial providers (except lynda) would look deeper into ipad/android as a tuition platform. I like to try things out on my notebook while I watch tutorials on on my ipad. DT's ipad support looks poor compared to that of lynda.
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  10 October 2013
I've been using Digital Tutors for a few months now. I don't really have any complaints. I also have a year subscription to Gnomon Workshops. They both have pros and cons. The thing I like most about digital tutors is that everything is easy to follow and they pump out loads of contents. What I dislike is the quality of work they do. I only use them for Maya modeling and when they go over new software updates. Im not a fan of the Zbrush work they do because they don't do the quality of work other trainers do. But for the price they tend to have way more takeaways in every course whereas with gnomon you may learn one or two things that can be really helpful and everything else is just their personal workflow. I do like the quality of work they do but what I dislike about them is that the majority of their recordings dates back to a few years and they very seldom put out anything new. So for me DT has been helpful because I learned a lot about maya in a simple and understandable way and it's worth the price. I still go to other sites like gnomon, eat3d, CGTods here,Zbrush Central, and I have a lot of books. All these sites are helpful so I don't limit myself to one of them.
 
  10 October 2013
Some of the videos DT puts out are so awful, you have to wonder if they have any quality control at all. I believe the tutors do their own QC, which is a baaaad thing. In the least, someone at DT should be telling some tutors "hey, quit saying that same word over, and over, and over, and over, and over again."
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  10 October 2013
Well I do think they got some interesting courses for sure. I have watched some really good tutorials from DT and learned a lot from them.

I think the new professional series has peeked my interest more than a few times but I'm gonna be honest, most of them still don't look very good and that can really impact my will to watch them. For example I have watched many intros for the professional series which basically goes like this.

Quote: Hi, I'm [Bob] and I have [many] years of experience working on [amazing stuff]. Today I am going to show you how to make this [awesome drawing].


Now obviously that was extremely exaggerated but every time I see something where the end result looks really bad I just don't get the impression that it's worth watching.

And because there are so few courses which look good to me I do not think it's worth getting a subscription. I would much rather just pay for a DVD with that particular tutorial I wish to watch than pay for 10,000 tutorials I do not want, where the ones I do want I can just watch for a limited time.
 
  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by NinthJake: Well I do think they got some interesting courses for sure. I have watched some really good tutorials from DT and learned a lot from them.

I think the new professional series has peeked my interest more than a few times but I'm gonna be honest, most of them still don't look very good and that can really impact my will to watch them. For example I have watched many intros for the professional series which basically goes like this.



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  10 October 2013
Quote: I would much rather just pay for a DVD with that particular tutorial I wish to watch than pay for 10,000 tutorials I do not want, where the ones I do want I can just watch for a limited time.


I use to buy there dvd's back in the day and miss that option. It would have been nice if the option to purchase a dvd was still available. I didn't realize that gnomon had the option where you could subscribe or purchase a dvd. Hey DT, please make that option available.
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  10 October 2013
Originally Posted by NinthJake: For example I have watched many intros for the professional series which basically goes like this.

Hi, I'm [Bob] and I have [many] years of experience working on [amazing stuff]. Today I am going to show you how to make this [awesome drawing].


Hey Bob, thanks but I got a book on how to draw. Videos take so long to watch, when a book is so much better for most subjects. Thanks anyway...
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  10 October 2013
I honestly don't understand what people expect from something that costs roughly 40 euro's a month.
Do you actually expect the scott eatons' of this world to do a course @DT, where they explain everything they have learned?
Of course not, you will get a course done by some of the lesser gods and as some people here have mentioned already it is great to get up and running with new tools.
And to add to that if I compare the level of training @ DT to some of the schools here in the Netherlands ( not all) I would actually advise them to drop school and use DT to learn the tools, and follow sculpting/photography/drawing classes to get up and running with teh art side of things and they wil get better results.
In the end it also boils down on using multiple resources to better yourself I have used:
-GNOMON DVD's
-DT
-CG Workshops
-Eat 3D
-FXPHD
-Renderman University
-You Tube

And I advise people to broaden their views and take from each resource and try and forgive their shortcomings.
If you really want to be an industry professional and want to learn everything sell your house and go to a school like GNOMON which costs ( if I am not mistaken) Roughly $80.000 a year, here you get grilled for 2/3 years 7 days a week 12-16 hours a day ....but on the upside you are in LA and you don't need DT anymore how about that ?
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