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  07 July 2013
I admit I did laugh at the analog line b/c right after that it showed them inside of it with futuristic computer interfaces running.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by playmesumch00ns: Was it really native stereo? I can't really believe it. There were horrible soft-matte lines on a lot of the dialogue and some scenes (most notably the wide shots in the scene with the young Mako walking in the ruins) had bizarre parallax issues.

I'm going to go see it again in 2D just to be able to actually see what the hell is going on in the fight scenes. 3D ruined them. I wish Hollywood would just stop I've had enough now: it's got to the point where I would actually pay more for a 2D ticket with allocated seating than watch a good-looking film ruined by a sh*tty conversion.


It's a hybrid, so the dodgy conversion you're seeing on the dialog is the conversion, the other scenes were rendered true left/right.

http://collider.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim-3d/


The analog thing was definitely one of the silliest things since "A UNIX SYSTEM", but enh.

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The whole methodology of the monsters was akin to Planet Doom sending out a more advanced RoBeast or something like that, I could hang with that, but I didn't like the rest of that explanation, the whole ID4 setup (evil colonizers, pollution, army waiting to come through, even the end nuke scene was nearly shot for shot when you got down to it). I think the countdown nature of it was needed to keep driving things forward and get to an all-or-nothing conclusion, but not sure what a "smart" plot for this genre could have been, really.


As I said, I do wish he had been able to make a tighter or slightly more serious movie with this level of visuals, but I'm not angry that this wasn't it.

If they just looped the Hong Kong battle about 3-4 times I would still throw down $20 to see that.

It's unfortunate this will only break even (worldwide box office should save it from tanking but it's not going to be a domestic score) simply because there need to be more original movies like this. I hope it doesn't hurt Del Toro's ability to get some of his other ambitious projects made.
 
  07 July 2013
Terrific movie.

I had fun.
 
  07 July 2013
So far it's done pretty well in its international opening so it still might be quite a success.
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  07 July 2013
My review: http://www.pop-topia.com/pacific-rim-review/

I really enjoyed the movie, and thought it did just about everything right. Some people talked about the acting being terrible, but I honestly didn't see that. Visually, the film is a BEAST! The fight in Hong Kong was beyond ridiculous, and when the kaiju flew Gypsy Danger into the upper atmosphere, and they extended the chain-sword, I geeked out so hard!

The box office being so light here in the states is disheartening, 'cause the same public that rejected it will complain a year from now about all the sequels and remakes that will be coming out.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by KenK: when the kaiju flew Gypsy Danger into the upper atmosphere, and they extended the chain-sword, I geeked out so hard!


Yeah that was awesome, and definitely got a big roar of excitement from the audience I was with. I couldn't help thinking though, "why didn't they just get that out before?"
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  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by playmesumch00ns: Yeah that was awesome, and definitely got a big roar of excitement from the audience I was with. I couldn't help thinking though, "why didn't they just get that out before?"


That's a trope too though..they can't form blazing sword or fire the wave motion gun until they get their ass kicked a bit.

When the kaiju's wings popped out and they hit those big godzilla horns on the soundtrack I could barely contain myself.
 
  07 July 2013
The Visuals were amazing but that's about all this movie had going. Sad to see good actors working with such awful dialogue. Reminds me of watching those cringe-worthy Star Wars prequel romance dialogue...Anyway, my friends said it was great and all and though I was hesitant at first I was convinced since I thought Del Toro would do better as the Hellboy movies are awesome.

Also there were way too many plotholes. Frankly they should of just had Ron Perlman as the lead guy the movie would of been awesome since the only time the movie got better was when Ron Perlman had his scenes.

I know a lot of people say that this movie was an homage to B-Movie Monsters movies but why spent so much money on the visuals for a B-Movie when the story, acting and dialogue is awful? Isn't that just a lame excuse? Oh well...I give it a C.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by ebbandflow: The Visuals were amazing but that's about all this movie had going. Sad to see good actors working with such awful dialogue.


Funny you mention that, but all of Toros movies are like that though. I am utterly bored by every one of his movies. Kind of like Kubrics movies. Yawnfest storywise but gorgeous to look at.

I have to say though, he managed to capture a 'magic' in this movie visually that I have not really 'felt' in any other movie I have ever seen. I actually felt like the kid that used to read comic books and live in the makebeleive world. There was a time when everything was new and the whole world seemed amazing and huge -- Toro captured all of that in this movie.

Of course, as an adult, I now nitpick everything.

I hope that kids today, with all of the infinite distractions get a chance to get absorbed into a world much much bigger than their own for a little while.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by mr.bean: Funny you mention that, but all of Toros movies are like that though. I am utterly bored by every one of his movies. Kind of like Kubrics movies. Yawnfest storywise but gorgeous to look at.

I have to say though, he managed to capture a 'magic' in this movie visually that I have not really 'felt' in any other movie I have ever seen. I actually felt like the kid that used to read comic books and live in the makebeleive world. There was a time when everything was new and the whole world seemed amazing and huge -- Toro captured all of that in this movie.

Of course, as an adult, I now nitpick everything.

I hope that kids today, with all of the infinite distractions get a chance to get absorbed into a world much much bigger than their own for a little while.



Agreed 100% Thats what made this movie so amazing!!! It was like I was 13 again...and that was ages ago, being able to make someone feel like that is a win! I saw it in IMAX 3D and I honestly had the perfect seat dead center mid row...the 3D was so good I felt like I could touch the Mechs especially when the Aussie Mechs Core plate (ironman like) started to warm up you could feel the heat off of it! The volumetric lights through the rain amazing, so much detail.
 
  07 July 2013
You guys wondering why people didn't do things immediately etc. would probably make terribly uninteresting movies.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by KenK: The box office being so light here in the states is disheartening, 'cause the same public that rejected it will complain a year from now about all the sequels and remakes that will be coming out.


A number of franchise-starters don't break out so big on the first film. It's been too long since STAR WARS for anything like that to happen now.

A recent example, more of "reviving a failed franchise" - Batman Begins also didn't post superlative numbers when it came out (it had an opening weekend only slightly better than the much-hated "Batman and Robin" unadjusted for inflation)... the confidence in the film series came AFTER and was based more on a qualitative assessment that the series would work and because the drop off was only in the 40% bracket. And that is to consider that Batman is a built-up franchise... so I hope people can appreciate how that works double hard for something like Pacific Rim which has no "name character", no "previous series", no "best selling novel", and no big name actor attached.

Officially, they were hoping Pacific Rim would open north of 30 Million to be considered "OK", given those odds, to get behind for future sequels/support etc. A 38 million dollar opening is technically "Above Expectations".

The second weekend will decide what happens. If word of mouth is good and the drop-off is less than 60% you can expect a sequel, video games, what have you.
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  07 July 2013
Pacific Rim is a pretty vague name for it as well.
Its like calling a world war 2 movie Northern Hemisphere.If titles matter to audiences then its not the most inspiring.

As soon as I saw the writer had done Clash of the Titans and the same production company was his employer I suspected it would be an fx show reel to a great extent but with Del Toro it wouldnt be as frustrating to watch as a Bay movie.

Ron Perlman would have made a great lead but that's 1980s kind of thinking when non pretty boy types could star in an action movie.
 
  07 July 2013
I saw the movie yesterday, 2D version, and not even digital...
Two things I think were the best in the movie:
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-Color: finally, a good color balance, very interesting mixtures and composition. Loved that. Thank god this wasn't another grey/bluish/orange toned movie, it's visually boring. Pacific Rim has this neon color (yeah I know, being most of the action located in Hong Kong helps a lot) that tints everything around, water, rain, floors, sky, buildings, yaggers, etc. It was very very beautiful to watch.

-Fights with tension: I don't know you guys, but the fights got me in the edge of my seat everytime! I think it was really good the way things escalated with each fight, and none of them was like the others. It did feel like the kaiju tried to win the fights with every punch. And everyone seem in real danger, yaggers took some serious damage with every hit.

Visually speaking the movie is flawless in my opinion, the amount of work is as ridiculous as its quality. The sense of scale and weight was great as well.

I believe this is a very very serious improvement over the action in movies like Transformers. 3 minutes of pacific rim has more interesting visuals and tension than Transformers had in all 3 movies. I appreciate that.

Story-wise, the movie is as dumb as can be expected really. They just spend enough time to justify all the kaiju vs yaggers cg fight porn, and the acting is average at best. Idris Elba, Rinko Kikuchi (Mako) and Mana Ashida (young Mako) were the only ones worth watching act, and not so down with Rinko actually. Oh and about the australian accent, thankfully, I'm not familiar with it enough to actually notice how bad it was (if that's the case).

I think this kind of movie really really need to solve the plot without nuking the shit out of the mothership, or inter-universe warm hole or whatever. Seriously, is it possible that every freaking movie has a nuclear detonation that saves the day? (I'm looking at you as well Oblivion). I have no idea what it could be, but come on, brainstorming for a while should get us some ideas. Dialogue was brutal as well. Good thing is I saw all that coming, so I was not expecting a great movie in that area. The action was worth it.


I might try to catch a 3D version in Imax, that should look great. We'll see.
Cheers!
 
  07 July 2013
I just got back from seeing this, and I really, really enjoyed it.

It's interesting to read comments and reviews critiquing the action as difficult to follow; I had that problem with Transformers (and more recently the final battle in Man of Steel), but in Pacific Rim I understood the action just fine.

As for merit of content, for me the entertainment value was so high I that I didn't mind the lack of depth. The action was enjoyable, but the moments that really had me grinning were gags like

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- Ron Perlman's appearance (and shoes!)
- The boat-as-weapon reveal
- The Newton's Cradle punch

It was definitely ridiculous, but ridiculously fun.
 
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